Proof of ID (Introduction)
Lets look more carefully about the hypothesis offered in the linked article. -"An attribute that is unique to minds is the ability to produce statistically significant levels of functional information or functional complexity."-Is it scientific? -I'm going to use algebra to split it into two, because the OR obfuscates.- "An attribute that is unique to minds is the ability to produce statistically significant levels of functional information."-Since he claims this is unique to minds, this makes the case pretty easy to resolve. -How do we test this? The site claims "This hypothesis can be tested in the lab or computationally using genetic algorithms."-Yet it doesn't proffer a single test! It says this: -"1. If an effect requires, encodes or produces statistically significant levels of functional information or functional complexity, it requires an intelligent mind to produce. (from above hypothesis) 2. Universal protein Ribosomal S12 requires least 359 bits of functional information to encode.-3. Therefore, Ribosomal S12 required an intelligent mind to encode. "-This is simply a classic statement of the philosophical for (P --> Q)-There is NO TEST here. There is an observation that a protein requires 319 bits to encode it. -An observation is NOT a test. Therefore, this isn't an hypothesis. - "An attribute that is unique to minds is the ability to produce statistically significant levels of functional complexity"-Again, what's the test?
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