Proof of ID (Introduction)

by David Turell , Monday, December 16, 2013, 05:24 (3996 days ago) @ xeno6696

Testable hypothesis:
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> > http://p2c.com/students/blogs/truthquest/2013/10/scientific-method-detect-intelligent-d... > 
> > This argument is why I believe in ID
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> Matt; "Hypothesis: An attribute that is unique to minds is the ability to produce statistically significant levels of functional information or functional complexity."
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> Matt; Here's where this hypothesis fails. It is also equally possible for a mind to LIE. That is, given that a mind can "... produce statistically significant levels of functional information or functional complexity" it is also EQUALLY possible that a mind can PRETEND "...to produce statistically significant levels of functional information or functional complexity."-Possibilty is not fact. Equal probablilty is specious in your argument. We don't know the probabilities of lying or not lying, so this is a straw man argument. But we do know what minds can do and what cannot be produced without mind. Tell me how a code is produced by chance, or information is produced by chance. I'm not talking about observational information like it is cold today, but coordinated planning type of information.
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> Matt; For this hypothesis to be scientific, you are REQUIRED to make at least one assumption, an assumption that I say is so revolutionary and improbable, that the hypothesis can be rejected before you even make it to the testing phase. 
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> 1. The mind that created the universe never tells a lie. 
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> It is my intent, that my argument ends here. Because ID immediately fails without this assumption. (There are more, but this is the most damning.)-I don't follow the logic of this at all. Please explain it. Lying is not an issue. Explain how DNA has two levels of coding, as well as layers of other levels of control over the information it uses to create life. You can't, and neither can I, but chance can never do it. With your reasoning please fill the vacuum of the creation of this phenomenon. I will accept an answer of I don't know, which means you cannot reject out of hand other's answers.