Proof of ID (Introduction)

by dhw, Monday, December 16, 2013, 18:10 (3995 days ago) @ David Turell

David: A simple essay:-http://www.elpasotimes.com/opinion/ci_24725309/el-paso-times-QUOTE: If you believe that a few fundamental, unintelligent forces of physics alone could have rearranged the basic particles of physics into Apple iPhones, you are probably not an ID proponent, even if you believe in God. But if you believe there must have been more than unintelligent forces at work somewhere, somehow, in the whole process: congratulations, you are one of us after all!-Of course ID has been tainted with fundamentalist Creationism, so it's difficult now to disassociate the one from the other. But since certain prominent ID-ers try to distance themselves from conventional concepts of God, I wonder if Granville Sewell himself has any alternatives in mind. After all, design requires a designer or designers, so if it's not a god or gods, what else might it be? The one thing we can be pretty sure of is that all forms of life consist of cells or cell communities. Has anyone ever thought of the possibility that cells and cell communities, no matter how they came into existence, might have a designing intelligence of their own?!
 
DAVID (to Matt): Explain how DNA has two levels of coding, as well as layers of other levels of control over the information it uses to create life. You can't, and neither can I, but chance can never do it. With your reasoning please fill the vacuum of the creation of this phenomenon. I will accept an answer of I don't know, which means you cannot reject out of hand other's answers.-With your reasoning, David, please explain how your God preprogrammed the very first living cells to pass down programmes for every innovation, adaptation, lifestyle and strategy of every organism that ever lived (apart from his occasional dabble, and those latecomers to whom you attribute free will). I will accept an answer of I don't know, which means you cannot reject out of hand others' answers.