Intelligence & Evolution (Evolution)

by David Turell , Friday, November 29, 2013, 15:11 (4011 days ago) @ dhw


> dhw: The quote was in answer to your claim that Shapiro did not describe the method of cooperation. He did, as do all the other scientists I have cited. Why would they all deliberately mislead the public? How will that make them popular? Is it not possible that as a result of their research they genuinely believe cells are intelligent?-If you look at the following link you will see that cells sence and respond to stimuli by biochemical reactions. They are all set up to be automatic: -Cell Biochemistry (N.B. Right hand mouse click and open link in a new tab or window)
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> dhw:Nor do we know how independent intelligence works. We can observe it but have no idea of its origins. Many researchers have observed it in ants and cells,-The form of 'intellligence' they observe is shown in the pdf presented. How evolution did that by chance is very problematic. The systems look like implanted intelligent plans to me.-
> dhw: If the whole of the ID community supports your hypothesis [...] why do you have to resort to subjectively interpreted "implications" instead of concrete references?-Because when they discuss this approach the pdf presented is the kind of evidence they give.-
> dhw:Please don't subject me to a long search. Just give me one reference to an article explicitly arguing that God implanted billions of programmes into the very first cells, to ensure that billions of years later organisms would produce billions of innovations, adaptations, lifestyles and strategies, with God occasionally dabbling along the way. And please explain why if this is such a common hypothesis, you claimed that it was "entirely of your own making".-Not my own making as I have explained. How about you tell me how the cells got so complicated to be the source of life, an emergent phenomenon. The ID folks have studied all of this and I agree with their consclusion.-> 
> dhw: And do please tell us whether you think God preprogrammed the raft strategy in the very first living cells, or did a dabble to save the ants, Noah-like, from the flood?-All I can do is observe and my natures wonders stream of observations on this website show how inventive life is. Is each one a God dabble? Or did God create life to be very inventive on its own? Your choice. Since you stand back as the non-believer What do you think? All Darwin-style evolution?