Intelligence & Evolution (Evolution)
> dhw: Since when was CIA intelligence "inborn"? I referred precisely to what you are referring to. Human intelligence also operates through what you call "the information in DNA that runs the plan of life".-That statement is precisely what you are missing. The CIA sends out spies to procure information by a plan developed within the organization. The information developed is external, the plan internal.-> dhw: You have left out the rest of my response: "Just like us, cells process the information they absorb from the world around them, but the "information" that constitutes the mechanism whereby they do the processing, communicate with one another, take their decisions etc. is, just like ours, of unknown origin." In other words, we do not know the source of our (faculty of) intelligence or theirs, but that does not mean we or they are not intelligent!-Left out because it is wrong. DNA in the cells and the cells constituent proteins run by a chemical plan mediated within the genome. As Shapiro notes it is all chemistry and physics. Our brain cells under the same tingt controls, but consciousness and intelligent thought emerges somehow so our brain is at a different level than single cells. You are right about the source of our conscious intelligence. > > dhw: I could just as well argue that "irreducible complexity" implies that the intelligent cell is so complex that it must have been designed.-Why don't you. It is so obvious.-> dhw: From what I've read, Behe gives individual examples, but nothing remotely resembling your colossal generalization. The Catholic view of evolution is that God guided the whole process, but humans and their souls were the subject of special creation. No mention there either of those umpteen billion programmes. You said earlier that your preprogramming theory was entirely of your own making. Perhaps you should stick to that.-I'm stuck with it. I mentioned Behe's religion, with whom I have chatted in person, just as a background to his thinking. He and his church appear to support theistic evolution, which to me implies evolutionary programming ,especially human programming as you point out..
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