Intelligence & Evolution (Evolution)

by David Turell , Friday, October 18, 2013, 20:38 (3835 days ago) @ dhw


> DAVID: Good on you. That statement reflects my thesis. In the past I have stated that God created life to be very inventive, so your conclusion about me is off a bit. The higgledy piggledy is part of that inventiveness, but the overall direction was always toward humans. We've covered this in the past'
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> dhw: Our discussion concerns how this inventiveness is implemented. If you insist that cells are automatons, then they cannot possibly take decisions independently ... every innovation has to be preprogrammed, as must every strategic decision. That is the thesis you have proposed. -No I haven't proposed the meaning in your statement. Life is very inventive, I repeat, as allowed by God's original programming. Through epigenetic mechanisms I suspect some of the oddball forms and lifestyles appeared. -> 
> dhw; So 90% of biochemists have found different explanations from yours, although yours is based on your knowledge of biochemistry, and because they do not accept your explanation they are egotists.-Their atheism demands the conclusions they reach.-
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> dhw: You have repeated my own argument, but have inserted the words "installation" and "God at work". The alternative is that the drive toward complexity came from the intelligent cell, which may or may not have been invented by your God. You have now linked into the concept of cooperation. Same problem. If cells are automatons, they can only have been preprogrammed to cooperate, and what they produce through their cooperation must also have been preprogrammed, all the way back to the first forms of life. Those first cells sure were loaded.-Very likely. The orginal single cell at the origin of life was highly complex to have life, which makes OOL very difficult to replicate.