Intelligence (Origins)

by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Monday, March 25, 2013, 10:25 (4259 days ago) @ BBella

Bella: I was glad to see your "open-minded" response above about the possibilities of the nature of the first-cause energy. I'm still pondering questions about this myself. Not sure of anything. But if there is a fence, I'm still sitting on it here between the " Ain and the Ain Soph."(taken from our prior discussion in January) Your quoted words from the Qabala slightly rearranged below:
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> >...[what I call] the 'All That Is' [could be the] nebulous, having no form, purpose, intelligence, personality, infinite and unknowable. [Then] God, Ain Soph, [became] the product [from this nebulous], [by becoming] self-realization, awakening to awareness, the prime movement, first thought, or first emination. In short, it is not so much that nothing was prior to God as much as it is that it is impossible to speculate upon it."
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> >"Before He gave any shape to the world, before He produced any form, He was alone, without form and without resemblance to anything else. Who then can comprehend how He was before the Creation? Hence it is forbidden to lend Him any form or similitude, or even to call Him by His sacred name, or to indicate Him by a single letter or a single point. . . . But after He created the form of the Heavenly Man, He used him as a chariot wherein to descend, and He wishes to be called after His form, which is the sacred name 'YHWH'.[1]
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> If the creator of all things sprung from this nebulous, I would think that the nebulous itself, before God, couldn't have been without intelligence or purpose, because from it sprung God, and it would only make sense that God sprung from some form of intelligence and/or purpose. My thinking is, if from this nebulous sprung the creator of all things, why couldn't the nebulous itself not be the creator of all things, including or apart from what we call God?-To answer your question, it is because the nebulous energy(Ain) and God(Ain Soph) are one and the same. They are not separate. The Ain Soph is the awareness of the Ain, YHWH is the form created to be the vehicle for the Ain Soph. The first and second events are emergent, not separative. Just as you are certainly not separate from the energy, information, or form that you are comprised of, neither is Ain/Ain Soph/YHWH. Yet, every act from the first to last is an act of refinement via separation. "Father" to "Son", male to female, dark and light, earth and sky, etc etc etc... but, like the individual and specific cells within your body, they are separate, but not. Separate but in unity(If that makes sense). They are more than complementary, they are infinitely greater than the sum of their parts.

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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.