Intelligence (Origins)
>dhw: What is "intelligent information"? A chunk of rock contains a bookful of information, but it takes an intelligent mind to extract it and systematize it. That doesn't mean the rock was designed and created by an intelligent mind. -The information I am referring to is the information that creates the complex design of the univrse, the even more complex design of living matter. Inorganic matter such as rocks contain information about crystaline structure, mineral content, presence of elements, etc. However, this information does not detail any complex active design, because there is none. - > dhw: QUOTE: " Perhaps matter itself has a bias toward producing conscious creatures. Nature in that case would be "teleological"—not random, not fully subject to chance, but tending toward a particular end. Our mental life would be accounted for—phew!—without reference to God[/i]." > > It would seem that he really is looking for a third way along the lines of my "panpsychist" hypothesis. But I prefer my nebulous "intelligence" to his nebulous "teleology"! > > Once again, we have instances of a form of "intelligence" we do not understand. Cells like ants like crows like dogs like humans have their own means of communicating and of taking decisions. Applied to energy transmuted into matter, this innate "intelligence" is Nagel's "third way".-Life arrived quickly on Earth. And the first life forms were very complex, based on Archaea studies. There is nothing innate about the intelligence that made life. Rocks can't think and the Earth was nothing but rocks, a little soil and water when life started in the oceans. And meteorites did not bring the right amino acids or other organic molecules to make RNA. Darwin's warm, little pond is a pipedream, not Chuck's fault for imagining it as he didn't know any better, but Darwinists clinging to the dream is what is maddening.
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