Intelligence (Origins)

by David Turell , Monday, March 04, 2013, 16:25 (4064 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: This is one reason why I prefer "intelligence" to "consciousness", because you equate the latter with a self-aware God (UI). Why must the interconnectedness be at this level? The information is there to be used by whatever form of intelligence, low or high, can use it. Each cellular community can build on the work of preceding cellular communities. My hypothesis does not need a universal, self-aware intelligence to direct operations.-Also dhw from a thread with Tony:-> dhw: "Indeed. Exactly the same applies to the concept of an impersonal, low-level first-cause "intelligent" energy which has had an eternity to produce different combinations of matter."-I'm totally confused. You have infused raw energy with knowledge, information, or intelligence. Really? What carries this info? How is it transmitted through evolution? What originated this info? Or did it arise de novo without thought or planning? Is the info in any sort of understandable pattern or is it amorphous? None of your theory tells us about these issues. The usual concept of information is that it is carried by a code, whether DNA or letter of a language. The characteristics of the particle zoo are understood in launguage, but their indivivual actions are a built-in aspect of their construction. They just act or react as they are constructed to do automatically. Yet the universe evolved. It didn't need particles that 'undersand' or interpret a plan. Their design caused the evolution. It didn't take eternity in this universe, only 13.7 billion years. How the design came about is where we battle. -In living matter the same thoughts apply. The organic chemicals are extremely complex and are organized according to principles we understand while the chemicals react as automatons. Cells are complex and coordinated. Same problem: where did the design come from? "Amorphous information"; you can't even define what you are proposing. It is nebulous and does not lead to any proposal that can be researched.- Design requires an intelligence that is self-aware and analytic for proper planning of the design. It has to be design if you cannot accept chance. The third way you are looking for is consciousness which is a result of interconnectedness. Quantum consciousness is the key. The only possible conclusion based on what we have learned in the past several hundred years of science. b bella undestands this through her psychic abilities.