Intelligence (Origins)

by David Turell , Tuesday, March 05, 2013, 15:38 (4281 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: Please tell us how your indefinable, nebulous, unresearchable God theory answers the questions you have asked about mine.-We agree upon first cause that contains information. The problem between us is how organized is that information. I do not believe the concept you favor can go anywhere except by chance, a process which you disavow. I believe only a fully formed mind can avoid chance. Your theory does not describe avoidance of chance. Therefore it falls apart. -There is a scientific way to detect design as the design theorists have shown, Michael Behe in particular, and Dembski as another. In any evolutionary process the advancement is either through hunt-and-peck chance or directive design. The Orphan gene article I just presented offers a possible glimpse into a DNA directed designed advance. All of the research into levels of genome control has simply introduced us to increasing complexity and that level of complexity is only just appearing. It will get 'complexer' and even more 'complexer', until the designing mind theory will win by default. Be patient. You will see, if we all live long enough.
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> DAVID: The third way you are looking for is consciousness which is a result of interconnectedness. Quantum consciousness is the key. The only possible conclusion based on what we have learned in the past several hundred years of science. -> dhw: I'd like to make it clear that my hypothesis can easily fit in with her psychic experiences. I am suggesting that matter contains the "intelligence" of the energy that formed it, and both evolve as described above. It may well be that in some people, and even in some other animals, the "intelligent" energy within the brain cells makes contact with the energy of other intelligences, and after death the same process may continue (who knows?).-What is required is a quantum-based universal consciousness. Sheldrake has shown experimental evidence for both animal and human species consciousness. That all fits your statement above. All of this is a subset of the universal consciousness we call God. And as you can see my concept of God is amenable to scientific research.