Love me or else (Part Two) (Where is it now?)

by BBella , Wednesday, January 16, 2013, 05:30 (4331 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained

Like energy + awareness + thought = form? Or do you think God purposely became (or created) this spiritual form to relate to the next creation he planned to create? Of course I know you don't KNOW but maybe you have an opinion with what you gathered from what you feel is so and what you have read. Thanks again!
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> That is an interesting question, and I certainly do not have any definite answers, as you said. My initial reaction is to point out the obvious that 'form' would have a totally different meaning for God than for us. Take away the physical aspect of form, and what is left? The shape of the thoughts? The totality of the awareness?-That's a mind bender for sure to try and imagine the shape of thought and awareness without form. But isn't that what consciousness is? When people experience NDE's, they experience [being] consciousness without form. Maybe that's also why some NDE'rs say they felt like they were wrapped in God's warmth of complete love and peace, because they were within that state of consciousness without form, [what humans think of as] the dwelling place of God.
 
> There are a lot of things I think of when I consider YHWH, but I don't tend to think of Him in terms of physical imagery like a big man with a beard and a stick or some such. Primarily I think of Him in terms of his attributes: wisdom, love, justice, power, etc. I think of Him in terms of his actions as well, what he does or has done in the past. To my way of thinking, this is his 'form'. The sum unified whole of all of his attributes, and even then my mind is only scratching the surface of something vastly beyond my comprehension.-I think we may have a bit of a similar perspective in imagery. Being raised a Christian, it was difficult for me to wean myself from the image of the "big man with a beard". It was only after my experience's of knocking on heavens door, so to speak, and looking over the edge, that I began to let go of that image. I still pray, but it's different, in that I no longer feel I am speaking to an "entity" called God. I now feel more like I am expressing my hopes, wishes, thankfulness, etc., into the energetic flow of the fabric of What Is, which, I could just as easily call God if the name wasn't so tainted with the old imagery. But when speaking with Christians, I do just call it God. 
 
> This forum actually presents a wonderful analogy for this discussion. To my knowledge, you have never met David, DHW, myself, or any of the others that post here. Yet, you know that we exist, and every time you read one of our posts I suspect that your mental image of our 'form' changes subtly. Barring having seen a photograph of us, you have no idea about our physical attributes, and thus are forced to focus on the essence of who we are as witnessed from our writings and the descriptions of things from our pasts. This is the way I view God.-I completely understand exactly what you are saying. For years, that was the only way for me to get a peek of God was through the scriptures. I would pour over the Bible and many historical study books and concordances, seeking to grasp the Greek, Hebrew and even the elusive Armaic for endless hours trying to grasp the essence of God through those writings. In my last attempt to do so, before my illness, I dramatically came to a final conclusion. I could sum up God in totality with one word - Love. I think it was that final conclusion that allowed me to free myself from my search for God thru the scriptures. My mind was satisfied that the God of the scriptures, in totality, is Love. And having an obsessive mind, I began my search to find love in all things, which is where I believed God had his dwelling place, within all things. And then my illness suddenly came up in the midst of my search. Actually, just thereafter. Because I did finally see love in all things. It did take some acrobatic mind bending - which eventually brought me to the unlikely conclusion of reincarnation. And that's another story. lol. 
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> To relate more directly to your question, I am not even entirely certain what it means to have a 'spiritual' form, other than that it implies a different level of existence. From my readings, I can say some things about it. It is NOT 100% separate from physical reality, but it IS different in kind. A purer form of energy would fit that criteria, as it exists both within the physical realm and outside of it at the same time.-Again, it's as if you are describing consciousness in its energetic space between all that is - or what I call, All That Is.