Love me or else (Where is it now?)

by David Turell , Friday, December 14, 2012, 00:31 (4364 days ago) @ hyjyljyj

Re: Where is it now?
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Religion is no help at all. "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart," commands Jesus (Matthew 22, 37). "Fear God," says Peter, his disciple (1st Epistle General, 2, 17). Can we love what we fear? Imagine being told by your father: "Love me, or I'll beat you to a pulp."-You don't have the background I have. In the OT is the quote Jesus is quoting. We don't have hell in Judaism tofrighten us. Our OT god doesn't threaten us if we don't love him.
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> hy:And that fragment of utter brilliance constitutes virtually the most concise expression possible of the utter failure of Christianity and Abrahamic religion in general. -I don't view Judaism as a failure. And as Talmudic scholars reinterpreted the OT as allegory, the nastiness of the OT God takes on a different hue. He is basically teaching ethics and morality and explaining the meaning of life. At least we have softened our guy, but the muslims are having trouble teaching their more militant folks to cool it.-And I don't think Jesus pronounced other than love. His followers who invented the religion about him and the fear. They drove Karen Armstrong out of her religion and her Order because of the fear.-But what we are looking at are the human mistakes in trying to create religions. Religon's stupid ideas are huam stupidity. My born-again wife doesn't go to church: "Jesus didn't ask for churches, he asked just to follow his example", to paraphrase her.

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