Love me or else (Part One) (Where is it now?)

by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 19:14 (4331 days ago) @ dhw

To tie up logistics as best I can for DHW ...-
> DHW: We all die. We are all resurrected. In this second life, those who love God will go on living with him forever, but those who in the second life continue to be unbelievers, fornicators, liars etc. will die for a second time and that will be the end of them. Is this correct?
> -There is supposed to be a time after the 1000 year reign of Christ where Satan is let loose again for a short time. Those that choose to side with him at that point will be cut off permanently. Essentially, the only reason we are extended the forgiveness that he has offered us, and the associated second chance, is that we are so messed up that there is no way we could meet the standard, and more importantly we do not KNOW the entire standard. After the reign of Christ, we will have had the opportunity to learn the standard 100%, so when Satan is let loose it is a choice made with perfect knowledge of the consequences, and therefore is not forgivable. ->DHW: Will the new earth then be capable of holding and sustaining every human that ever lived (plus resurrected animals, so we can eat them all over again?), or will the resurrection be an on-going process? -My understanding is that it will be an ongoing process. There is no mention of resurrecting animals at all, so I can not comment on that. Ask the wolf, maybe he has his own version of the Bible and can clarify their beliefs. But, it IS said that we will not be omnivores at that point, and hinted that the animals will not be carnivores. It does not go into great detail of the logistics, however. ->DHW: And will dhw, who died at the ripe old age of 90, be resurrected as a 90-year-old?-Age would be irrelevant, but your body would be healthy, and likely the physical signs of aging would not exist. Whether that would happen immediately or if it would be a slow transition over time as the body heals itself in perfect conditions is not discussed.-
>DHW:Since the opportunity for capital crimes such as murder, fornication and agnosticism must still be available, the new earth can hardly be different from the old earth until God has got rid of us sinners, so do you think there will be a Judgement Day as touted by many Christians? Or will judgement be continuous, with the new Jerusalem divided, so that the faithful can go and live separately with God in their section? If the first death was our punishment for being sinners, and we start afresh in the second life but are still the same person, living in a similar world full of murderers, fornicators and agnostics, what do you think might make the 90-year-old dhw do better second time around (apart from the obvious physical incapabilities!)? I know some of this may sound facetious, but please believe me, my motives are serious.-The Bible actually answers this directly. Those violating the laws(which are few in number) would be cut off immediately. It is somewhere in Isaiah, but I would have to look it up again. So, yes, we still have all of the same potential as now, but no, it would not be a world full of sinners because the simply would not be tolerated. As for what the 90-year-old you would do better, I don't know, and couldn't know, because I do not know what mistakes you made this time around. What I can say is what you would have the opportunity to do, which is practically anything. YHWH's laws are laws of freedom, not restraint. In fact, most often they are laws that we strive to put into play without success, namely treat everyone/everything with perfect love and respect. Beyond that, I have not heard of any limitations on our actions at that time. It is worth point out though, that if you had an eternity, you would have the patience to think your way through a problem before acting, which, as noted by Tolkien, is one of the failings of the short lived race of man. - 
> DHW: ... it's the judgmental criteria and exercise of power that I find so off-putting. Fortunately, even though I'm one of the unbelievers on the list of those earmarked for a final cremation, this won't keep me awake at nights, because I just can't find any reason whatsoever for believing John ... if he wrote it ... or any of the other unknown, fallible humans who come up with such predictions.
> -It has been remarked that in a perfect government, the government has a monopoly on force, and the sole mission of protecting the populace from the use of force. That requires three primary components: the Law, the Judge, and the Punishment. -There is no way around that, nor should there be. I think I would rather have the judge with millenia of experience, infinite compassion, understanding, and wisdom wielding the hammer. At least then if I get the hammer I KNOW I have done something worth deserving my fate, and that the fate would be swift and painless.

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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.