Love me or else (Part Two) (Where is it now?)
BM: Believe it or not, I don't take them on faith, not entirely at any rate. > > > So, no, I don't take it on faith. The evidence I continue to find strengthens my faith, however. > > What you have presented I fully accept. Much of the OT is true history and you have just documented that...We each have our own approach to finding God.-David, I completely agree with your words above, "We each have our own approach to finding God". But what happened with me, in my search for God, was I found two different God's at one point in my life. One God, is the ALL THAT IS - The creator that IS the creation and the creator, within and without. The other God, is the God of the scriptures, who, he admits, is not that much different than the humans he created, as he created man in his own image. -I, like you, Tony, after much studying of all the evidence, fully recognized, that much of scripture, both New and Old Testaments and other documented testaments as well, such as the Koran, etc., is based on true history that did happen. -But after much soul/mind/heart searching (which I admit I have not concluded in any sense of finality), I've found it hard to put my faith in the God that spoke thru angels and face to face to humans and called himself God - the Great I AM, and not conclude that this God, is himself, a product of creation calling himself God of all creation. -This God may even have the right to do so, in some sense, to call himself our God, as he may have created humans, thru DNA and gene splicing, and may even have and still may, watch over and nurture us bringing us up in the way that we should go wanting the best for us, even intervening at times. And thru Jesus and other sent beings, have tried to steer us on the straight and narrow road to love, as a good Father should, helping us evolve into a better, less carnal species. -But, I cannot equate the two. This God that speaks with his creation with the God that is "The" All That Is. I believe beings did appear to these people (and even may still appear at times) claiming they were messengers from, or God himself, and did give them prophecies and/or words to write down for warnings etc. But, as I have mentioned before, I believe these beings came to be thru evolution and are not THE Creator of all creation. -I still have a very open mind about this and would truly like to hear your, Tony's, opinion on how or why you believe I am wrong, about these being two different Gods, or do you?
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hyjyljyj,
2012-12-13, 17:11
- Love me or else - David Turell, 2012-12-14, 00:31
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dhw,
2012-12-15, 20:07
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David Turell,
2012-12-16, 00:09
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dhw,
2012-12-16, 13:00
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David Turell,
2012-12-16, 14:56
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hyjyljyj,
2012-12-17, 18:51
- Love me or else - David Turell, 2012-12-18, 00:05
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Balance_Maintained,
2012-12-18, 17:29
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David Turell,
2012-12-18, 17:54
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2012-12-18, 18:46
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2012-12-18, 18:46
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David Turell,
2012-12-18, 17:54
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hyjyljyj,
2012-12-17, 18:51
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David Turell,
2012-12-16, 14:56
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dhw,
2012-12-16, 13:00
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David Turell,
2012-12-16, 00:09
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Balance_Maintained,
2012-12-18, 16:59
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David Turell,
2012-12-18, 17:37
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hyjyljyj,
2012-12-19, 16:38
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David Turell,
2012-12-19, 18:24
- Love me or else - Balance_Maintained, 2012-12-19, 22:56
- Love me or else - Balance_Maintained, 2012-12-19, 21:22
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David Turell,
2012-12-19, 18:24
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dhw,
2012-12-19, 17:03
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dhw,
2012-12-19, 17:09
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2012-12-20, 05:06
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2012-12-20, 05:57
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David Turell,
2012-12-20, 13:45
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2012-12-20, 18:14
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David Turell,
2012-12-21, 01:35
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2012-12-21, 02:43
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David Turell,
2012-12-22, 02:11
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2012-12-22, 02:56
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David Turell,
2012-12-22, 05:52
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2012-12-22, 20:45
- Love me or else (Part Two) - David Turell, 2012-12-23, 00:33
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2012-12-22, 20:45
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2012-12-22, 05:52
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2012-12-22, 21:11
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2012-12-22, 21:26
- Love me or else (Part Two) - David Turell, 2012-12-23, 01:51
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David Turell,
2012-12-23, 00:43
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BBella,
2012-12-23, 02:19
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Balance_Maintained,
2012-12-23, 03:48
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David Turell,
2012-12-23, 05:17
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BBella,
2012-12-24, 07:05
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BBella,
2012-12-24, 07:05
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BBella,
2012-12-24, 06:55
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David Turell,
2012-12-24, 15:31
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2012-12-24, 21:16
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David Turell,
2012-12-24, 22:02
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2012-12-25, 02:25
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David Turell,
2012-12-25, 05:20
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2012-12-25, 05:20
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2012-12-25, 02:25
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David Turell,
2012-12-24, 22:02
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2012-12-24, 21:16
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2012-12-24, 20:52
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BBella,
2012-12-28, 06:18
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BBella,
2013-01-10, 22:19
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2013-01-11, 03:17
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BBella,
2013-01-14, 04:28
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2013-01-14, 07:19
- Love me or else (Part Two) - David Turell, 2013-01-14, 14:49
- Love me or else (Part Two) - BBella, 2013-01-16, 05:30
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-01-14, 07:19
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BBella,
2013-01-14, 04:28
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2013-01-11, 03:17
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BBella,
2012-12-28, 06:18
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David Turell,
2012-12-24, 15:31
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2012-12-23, 05:17
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Balance_Maintained,
2012-12-23, 03:48
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2012-12-23, 02:19
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2012-12-22, 21:26
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2012-12-22, 02:56
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David Turell,
2012-12-22, 02:11
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Balance_Maintained,
2012-12-21, 02:43
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David Turell,
2012-12-21, 01:35
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Balance_Maintained,
2012-12-20, 18:14
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dhw,
2012-12-20, 15:58
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Balance_Maintained,
2012-12-20, 17:27
- Love me or else (Part Two) - BBella, 2012-12-20, 19:51
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dhw,
2012-12-21, 19:05
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David Turell,
2012-12-21, 20:23
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Balance_Maintained,
2012-12-21, 23:47
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David Turell,
2012-12-22, 00:35
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Balance_Maintained,
2012-12-22, 20:43
- Love me or else (Part Two) - David Turell, 2012-12-23, 00:29
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Balance_Maintained,
2012-12-22, 20:43
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David Turell,
2012-12-22, 00:35
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Balance_Maintained,
2012-12-21, 23:47
- Love me or else (Part Two) - Balance_Maintained, 2012-12-21, 23:14
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Balance_Maintained,
2012-12-21, 23:34
- Love me or else (Part Two) - romansh, 2012-12-22, 00:14
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dhw,
2012-12-31, 14:47
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dhw,
2012-12-31, 14:59
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Balance_Maintained,
2012-12-31, 17:07
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dhw,
2013-01-01, 19:42
- Love me or else (Part Two) - dhw, 2013-01-01, 19:52
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-01-02, 17:40
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David Turell,
2013-01-02, 17:59
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-01-03, 00:58
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-01-03, 00:58
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dhw,
2013-01-03, 13:18
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-01-15, 19:14
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dhw,
2013-01-16, 16:42
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-01-16, 19:22
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dhw,
2013-01-17, 18:24
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-01-17, 20:19
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David Turell,
2013-01-18, 01:20
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-01-18, 02:05
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David Turell,
2013-01-18, 15:55
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-01-18, 16:56
- Love me or else (Part One) - David Turell, 2013-01-18, 18:39
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-01-18, 16:56
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David Turell,
2013-01-18, 15:55
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-01-18, 02:05
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-01-17, 20:19
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dhw,
2013-01-17, 18:24
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-01-16, 19:22
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dhw,
2013-01-16, 16:42
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-01-15, 19:14
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David Turell,
2013-01-02, 17:59
- Love me or else (Part One) -
dhw,
2013-01-01, 19:42
- Love me or else (Part Two) -
Balance_Maintained,
2012-12-31, 17:07
- Love me or else (Part One) - Balance_Maintained, 2012-12-31, 16:18
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dhw,
2012-12-31, 14:59
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David Turell,
2012-12-21, 20:23
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Balance_Maintained,
2012-12-20, 18:51
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BBella,
2012-12-20, 20:16
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Balance_Maintained,
2012-12-20, 20:39
- Love me or else (Part Two) - romansh, 2012-12-20, 23:54
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Balance_Maintained,
2012-12-20, 20:39
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BBella,
2012-12-20, 20:16
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Balance_Maintained,
2012-12-20, 17:27
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David Turell,
2012-12-20, 13:45
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Balance_Maintained,
2012-12-20, 05:57
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dhw,
2012-12-19, 17:09
- Love me or else -
David Turell,
2012-12-18, 17:37