Other Forms of Life (Evolution)
Thank you dhw for bringing this subject to a credible, or at least, to an intelligent discussion level. Even if this discussion goes nowhere I do appreciate your consideration of the points in my post. - > 1) Clearly the existence of such beings won't help us solve the problem of origins.> - I did take into consideration in my last post that a discussion about other worldly intervention will probably not shed any more light on the origin of our universe. And, altho it doesn't solve the problem of origins, it could shed some light on certain blanks and questions that has been discussed here, if considered, between the origin and the present, which is my main reason for bringing it up. There have been times I have wanted to interject ideas along this line in the discussions here, or elsewhere, of this possibility, so to bring in another aspect of 'possibilities' to fill in blanks, but, I always feel the same reaction of dismissal is met, or will be met. It seems, only in discussing it with the 'choir' is there any discussion at all and that's like discussing God at a bible study. - >Instead of asking how we got here, we would have to ask how they got here. But the same question can be asked of God's origin, and in any case the forum is not confined to discussing origins.> - The question of these beings origin, of course, would be just as illusive to us as our own origin is at this time. But, possibly, they have more info than we do about their own origin, being that they are a more advanced race, which they would have to be to have created us, or for us to be a 'product' of them. We may have less info on how we came to be because our 'benefactors' may be waiting for the 'right' time to let us in on it, or, more probable, are allowing us to figure it our on our own, which may be how they came to 'know' their own origin as well, who can know? - > 4) What evidence is there of such forms? None of us can possibly read all books on all subjects. Some experts have devoted themselves to studying the possibilities, and if they disagree, then they are in the same boat as the pro-God, anti-God lobbies, and we should at least consider what evidence they have to offer. (The same applies to the possibility of an afterlife.)> - I agree. And, to me, it is more understandable to discount a creator God than to discount a more advanced race of beings as our creators or benefactors. Many times, within certain discussion threads, we have asked the question, how could a loving God create such a savage creation as we have here? It would seem more plausible, to me, the "creator's" of this experiment, if there are such, could be more interested in the experiment itself rather than our 'feelings' about the experiment. Just as we ourselves are rarely interested in our experimentations with lower species in creating what is better for our own. These beings may be more interested in what this species can do for them, rather than what they can do for us. Then, too, as we are now evolving 'feelings' for our lower species, and want to 'harm' them less and less, possibly our creators have also, or will also, develop these same feelings for us? The more we see our commonality among species the more we grow feelings for them. Maybe the more they know about us the more they see themselves? Just like us with the lower species on our own planet. - > 5) Who knows what technology we might have developed in, say, ten thousand years ... if we are still around? Space exploration and colonization must be a distinct possibility. If we accept that as a hypothesis, why not go back ten thousand years and imagine a planet like ours, from which beings have set forth to explore us? Maybe even colonize us?> - I can imagine our society far advanced in much less time than ten thousand years. Even in a couple more hundred years, if the question of war and peace is ever solved, I believe we may even advance to what we are now supposing has happened in this discussion, and more. Our capabilities are only limited by our imaginations as well as our ability to truly care for each other. - Thanks again dhw for the opportunity to at least consider unlocking this door.
Complete thread:
- Catastrophes -
George Jelliss,
2008-11-22, 11:25
- Catastrophes -
David Turell,
2008-11-22, 16:13
- Catastrophes: snowball Earth from volcanoes? - David Turell, 2017-03-14, 14:25
- Catastrophes -
BBella,
2008-11-22, 17:25
- Catastrophes -
David Turell,
2008-11-23, 00:19
- Catastrophes -
BBella,
2008-11-23, 20:22
- Catastrophes - David Turell, 2008-11-24, 00:05
- Other Forms of Life -
dhw,
2008-11-24, 15:25
- Other Forms of Life -
David Turell,
2008-11-25, 01:26
- Other Forms of Life -
BBella,
2008-11-25, 18:06
- Other Forms of Life -
David Turell,
2008-11-26, 00:51
- Other Forms of Life -
BBella,
2008-12-05, 17:17
- Other Forms of Life - David Turell, 2008-12-06, 00:59
- Other Forms of Life -
George Jelliss,
2008-12-06, 15:29
- Other Forms of Life - David Turell, 2008-12-07, 14:29
- Other Forms of Life -
David Turell,
2010-10-26, 21:57
- Other Forms of Life - dhw, 2010-10-27, 16:36
- Other Forms of Life -
BBella,
2008-12-05, 17:17
- Other Forms of Life -
David Turell,
2008-11-26, 00:51
- Other Forms of Life -
BBella,
2008-11-25, 18:06
- Other Forms of Life -
BBella,
2008-11-25, 17:32
- Other Forms of Life -
George Jelliss,
2008-11-26, 10:39
- Other Forms of Life -
David Turell,
2008-11-27, 01:37
- Other Forms of Life -
BBella,
2008-12-10, 19:26
- Other Forms of Life - David Turell, 2008-12-10, 22:15
- Other Forms of Life -
BBella,
2008-12-10, 19:26
- Other Forms of Life -
BBella,
2008-12-05, 17:35
- Other Forms of Life -
George Jelliss,
2008-12-06, 14:59
- Other Forms of Life - BBella, 2008-12-10, 20:24
- Other Forms of Life -
George Jelliss,
2008-12-06, 14:59
- Other Forms of Life -
David Turell,
2008-11-27, 01:37
- Other Forms of Life -
dhw,
2008-11-26, 14:09
- Other Forms of Life - BBella, 2008-12-10, 19:06
- Other Forms of Life - BBella, 2008-12-10, 19:08
- Other Forms of Life -
George Jelliss,
2008-11-26, 10:39
- Other Forms of Life -
BBella,
2008-12-04, 23:02
- Other Forms of Life - dhw, 2008-12-05, 11:18
- Other Forms of Life -
dhw,
2008-12-09, 14:23
- Other Forms of Life -
George Jelliss,
2008-12-09, 15:54
- Other Forms of Life - David Turell, 2008-12-09, 21:13
- Other Forms of Life -
dhw,
2008-12-09, 22:24
- Other Forms of Life - David Turell, 2008-12-10, 00:50
- Other Forms of Life -
BBella,
2008-12-11, 00:01
- Other Forms of Life -
dhw,
2008-12-13, 09:07
- Other Forms of Life -
BBella,
2008-12-14, 18:55
- Other Forms of Life -
dhw,
2008-12-16, 12:29
- Other Forms of Life -
David Turell,
2008-12-16, 16:13
- Other Forms of Life -
dhw,
2008-12-17, 13:40
- Other Forms of Life -
David Turell,
2008-12-18, 02:33
- Other Forms of Life -
dhw,
2008-12-19, 11:45
- Other Forms of Life -
David Turell,
2008-12-19, 14:14
- Other Forms of Life -
dhw,
2008-12-20, 13:59
- Other Forms of Life -
David Turell,
2008-12-20, 19:26
- Other Forms of Life -
dhw,
2008-12-22, 08:49
- Other Forms of Life - David Turell, 2008-12-22, 15:07
- Other Forms of Life -
dhw,
2008-12-22, 08:49
- Other Forms of Life - David Turell, 2008-12-21, 01:31
- Other Forms of Life -
David Turell,
2008-12-20, 19:26
- Other Forms of Life -
dhw,
2008-12-20, 13:59
- Other Forms of Life -
David Turell,
2008-12-19, 14:14
- Other Forms of Life -
dhw,
2008-12-19, 11:45
- Other Forms of Life -
David Turell,
2008-12-18, 02:33
- Other Forms of Life -
dhw,
2008-12-17, 13:40
- Other Forms of Life -
David Turell,
2008-12-16, 16:13
- Other Forms of Life -
dhw,
2008-12-16, 12:29
- Other Forms of Life -
BBella,
2008-12-21, 23:12
- Other Forms of Life -
BBella,
2008-12-21, 23:14
- Other Forms of Life -
BBella,
2008-12-21, 23:37
- Other Forms of Life -
BBella,
2008-12-21, 23:39
- Other Forms of Life -
DragonsHeart,
2011-09-16, 17:30
- Other Forms of Life - David Turell, 2011-09-16, 18:33
- Other Forms of Life - dhw, 2011-09-17, 09:11
- Other Forms of Life -
DragonsHeart,
2011-09-16, 17:30
- Other Forms of Life -
BBella,
2008-12-21, 23:39
- Other Forms of Life -
BBella,
2008-12-21, 23:37
- Other Forms of Life -
BBella,
2008-12-21, 23:14
- Other Forms of Life -
BBella,
2008-12-14, 18:55
- Other Forms of Life -
dhw,
2008-12-13, 09:07
- Other Forms of Life -
George Jelliss,
2008-12-09, 15:54
- Other Forms of Life -
dhw,
2010-03-15, 17:32
- Other Forms of Life - David Turell, 2010-03-15, 21:36
- Other Forms of Life -
David Turell,
2008-11-25, 01:26
- Catastrophes -
BBella,
2008-11-23, 20:22
- Catastrophes -
David Turell,
2008-11-23, 00:19
- Catastrophes -
David Turell,
2008-11-22, 16:13