Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! (Introduction)
dhw has a way of encyclopedically referencing old posts to contradict: And I attempted to do the same thing, but the volume of writings here... yeah... we hae a lot of time on our hands, don't we???
I went as far back as 2009 and I simply can't find a set of about 3 different posts that back me up here.
I've always been consistent, what happened here is yet another flub of my keyboard: I uttered the words "taking it seriously" in reference to NDE or OOB.
dhw must hate my ability to alter definitions: I speak in metaphors often in my own head, and for me to be able to "take a subject seriously" I have to be able to study it.
^^^I've been very consistent about this. I remember posting something to these lines several times.
Not "Taking something seriously" has the connotation of writing it off as a joke or something to be ridiculed. It would be fair for dhw to say that I'm trying to save face, and he has every right to do so. But if you think back to the few times I have mentioned NDE/OOB, compare what I said then to what I've said in the past few days and I'll let you judge for yourself if I'm on the level or not.
Have we forgotten that just a few short weeks ago I posted a link to a Buddhist story of NDE? How is that anything other than an "open mind?"
By the way: I have no problem with you provoking me to talk about a subject-->it's perfectly reasonable to assume that maybe I don't like talking about it because it threatens materialism, and I have no real issue doing it, but my un-comfortableness with the topic stems from the two facts I will restate:
1. We lack a real knowledge of the human consciousness.
2. To understand NDE, we must understand consciousness.
It is really difficult for me to think about or deal with a problem when the link to its primary domain is completely unestablished. I lack a way to think about it.
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/triggers06.html <--here is another link to the OOB research I had discussed a long time ago.
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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"
\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"
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