Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! (Introduction)
First... I take issue with your suggestion of dismissal. I bought Sabom's
book--and you should remember well my writings about the part of your book
that dealt with what we call psychic phenomenon. If you recall, I left
positively intrigued and was even waxing philosophical about some of my own
possible experiences. I intended to read Reynold's story from his book as
I thought that the website did not give me enough information.
Too much wine the night I read your reply, but no where are you telling me that you cracked Sabom's book and read his physician's description of the operation and her verifiable observations will literally blind, deaf, and severely hypothermic.
Nowhere am I NOT being scientific about this. From the story given, I
decided I needed more information.
Why respond as you did without getting the info first, especially if you have the book.
However--it's patently hard to be "scientific" about this. It's a personal experience. I can no more verify Pam's experience than Christ risen. In fact, in a direct sense, the claims are identical. In Christ's case I have to take the eyewitness word of 4 Gospels. In our case, I have to take Pam's and her doctor's "word for it" and it is at this level that we cannot be scientific--
I recognize that there are soft sciences as psychology, but those folks are making valid attempts to get around some of your objections.
(This is in fact, why mathematics is alluring...)
I clearaly understand your prejudices. How hard a science is economics?
I've also said before, science that isn't replicable, isn't science. I hold to that. So asking me to be a "real scientist...?" sorry, that's exactly what I'm doing.
Your response the other day was off-hand and dismissive. I still stick with falsifiable, along with replicable, and suggest thatd a use of both is much more complete.
My bias is from medical science, yours from math. A great difference.
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