Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! (Introduction)
But there exists no explanation about the means.
That is exactly the point. And I am not sure that we will find the means.
No, but I actually put more credit to the Hindus and Kabbalistic Rabbis: They explored the universe by exploring the inside. Many of their answers harmonize with you.
I can readily accept that.
I've offered up what I've found in regards to Buddhist interpretations. You just need to accept that this isn't a subject I take lightly, and have thought deeply about-->and came to the conclusion that I lack the information necessary to work a solution.
And I certainly accept your position here. I am not asking for a solution. Just a recognition that this NDE issue presents a puzzle, and I recognize that you see it that way also, but on your own terms.
I've always recognized it. Just, for some reason, dhw wanted to draw me into a discussion about them. Likely, he didn't (perhaps still doesn't) understand my reluctance or my responses. (Not that he's not capable, but I'm not a stellar communicator.)
I'm a deeply systematic thinker. I recognize that. Compared to my classmates, it will often take me longer to arrive at a solution, simply because I can easily get lost checking my corner cases. (I write very reliable software, by the way, lol...)
What many people fail to respect, is that when things are outliers to my system, I still categorize them, but if I have no line whatsoever from A-Z, it exists as an outlier. (And truth is usually discovered in outliers!) But as I've told you before, I feel no rush to answer these questions before I die. If its one thing that I had to get used to on every level, it's living with ambiguity.
I realize that both you and dhw probably view me as "copping out" on the NDE issue, but I really feel like I'm being dishonest by engaging in an issue where all we have is wild speculation: and speculation is dangerous. If you reflect deeply, most of the horrible mistakes of history were perpetrated due to speculation and accepting immediate solutions when there was no need...
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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"
\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"
Complete thread:
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-11-28, 18:00
- Afterlife - David Turell, 2011-11-28, 18:40
- Afterlife - Balance_Maintained, 2011-11-29, 23:50
- Afterlife -
xeno6696,
2011-11-30, 03:25
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-11-30, 19:11
- Afterlife - David Turell, 2011-11-30, 19:40
- Afterlife -
xeno6696,
2011-12-01, 04:03
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-12-01, 17:18
- Afterlife -
xeno6696,
2011-12-02, 02:49
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-12-02, 17:03
- Afterlife -
xeno6696,
2011-12-03, 14:58
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-12-03, 16:54
- Afterlife -
xeno6696,
2011-12-03, 18:22
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-12-05, 20:26
- Afterlife - Balance_Maintained, 2011-12-05, 21:21
- Afterlife - David Turell, 2011-12-05, 22:58
- Afterlife -
David Turell,
2011-12-06, 01:50
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
dhw,
2011-12-07, 22:26
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
BBella,
2011-12-08, 05:23
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- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2011-12-31, 17:28
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
dhw,
2012-01-01, 12:48
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-05, 03:12
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! - David Turell, 2012-01-05, 04:54
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-05, 03:12
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
dhw,
2012-01-01, 12:48
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-05, 03:01
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! - xeno6696, 2012-01-05, 03:04
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-05, 04:48
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-07, 05:09
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-07, 14:50
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-07, 18:26
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! - David Turell, 2012-01-08, 05:10
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
dhw,
2012-01-09, 11:41
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-10, 04:07
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-10, 06:24
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 00:34
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- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 00:34
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-10, 06:24
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-10, 04:07
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-07, 18:26
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-07, 14:50
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-07, 05:09
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
dhw,
2012-01-06, 12:32
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-10, 03:35
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-10, 06:19
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 00:21
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-11, 01:11
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 01:47
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-11, 05:21
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 12:48
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-11, 14:41
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! - xeno6696, 2012-01-11, 15:09
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-11, 14:41
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 12:48
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
dhw,
2012-01-11, 16:35
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-13, 00:26
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
dhw,
2012-01-14, 08:44
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! - David Turell, 2012-01-14, 14:52
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
dhw,
2012-01-14, 08:44
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-13, 00:26
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-11, 05:21
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 01:47
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-11, 01:11
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 00:21
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-10, 06:19
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-10, 03:35
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-10, 02:50
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-10, 06:01
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-10, 23:53
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-11, 01:03
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 01:37
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! - David Turell, 2012-01-11, 05:10
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 01:37
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-11, 01:03
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-10, 23:53
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-10, 06:01
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
BBella,
2011-12-08, 05:23
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
dhw,
2011-12-07, 22:26
- Afterlife - David Turell, 2011-12-06, 15:20
- Afterlife - dhw, 2012-10-16, 19:49
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-12-05, 20:26
- Afterlife -
xeno6696,
2011-12-03, 18:22
- Afterlife -
David Turell,
2011-12-05, 00:55
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- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-12-03, 16:54
- Afterlife -
xeno6696,
2011-12-03, 14:58
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-12-02, 17:03
- Afterlife -
xeno6696,
2011-12-02, 02:49
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-12-01, 17:18
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-11-30, 19:11