Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! (Introduction)
As long as cells are alive--they are still capable of some kind of function. This still doesn't give an explanation to veridical NDEs, but I feel my hands are tied by methodological materialism there.
Brain cells function by producing electrical current. I agree, no curent no overt function, but what is left? A sleep like state? Coma? Can these cells really record or experience. We don't know. Information received. How? We don't know. Methodological materialism is the only approach.
No Way!!!
Yes way. Unless something changed in the last few days, you're limited to the same 5 senses as myself. The only recourse for those phenomenon that somehow escape them, is raw imagination. (Metaphysics.)
As for the others: Yeah, I know we don't know. That's why I brought them up.
How long does it survive? How many stories do we have of an NDE that lasts say, 3 days?
None. Of what matter is this? You can't shut your mind to the impression these stories offer. Nor can you reach an important conclusion. Both dhw and I are asking you, enter this subject with a very open mind.
Contrary to what you think, I'm not shutting my mind to anything. I'm pointing out that I have no way to study the phenomenon in question. Sure, I can read stories that tantalize, but without tools, without an observational framework, without a means of reproduction--you have a disjoint between these experiences, and everything else in existence.
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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"
\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"
Complete thread:
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-11-28, 18:00
- Afterlife - David Turell, 2011-11-28, 18:40
- Afterlife - Balance_Maintained, 2011-11-29, 23:50
- Afterlife -
xeno6696,
2011-11-30, 03:25
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-11-30, 19:11
- Afterlife - David Turell, 2011-11-30, 19:40
- Afterlife -
xeno6696,
2011-12-01, 04:03
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-12-01, 17:18
- Afterlife -
xeno6696,
2011-12-02, 02:49
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-12-02, 17:03
- Afterlife -
xeno6696,
2011-12-03, 14:58
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-12-03, 16:54
- Afterlife -
xeno6696,
2011-12-03, 18:22
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-12-05, 20:26
- Afterlife - Balance_Maintained, 2011-12-05, 21:21
- Afterlife - David Turell, 2011-12-05, 22:58
- Afterlife -
David Turell,
2011-12-06, 01:50
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
dhw,
2011-12-07, 22:26
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
BBella,
2011-12-08, 05:23
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- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2011-12-31, 17:28
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
dhw,
2012-01-01, 12:48
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-05, 03:12
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! - David Turell, 2012-01-05, 04:54
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-05, 03:12
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
dhw,
2012-01-01, 12:48
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-05, 03:01
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! - xeno6696, 2012-01-05, 03:04
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-05, 04:48
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-07, 05:09
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-07, 14:50
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-07, 18:26
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! - David Turell, 2012-01-08, 05:10
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
dhw,
2012-01-09, 11:41
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-10, 04:07
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-10, 06:24
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 00:34
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- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 00:34
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-10, 06:24
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-10, 04:07
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-07, 18:26
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-07, 14:50
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-07, 05:09
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
dhw,
2012-01-06, 12:32
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-10, 03:35
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-10, 06:19
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 00:21
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-11, 01:11
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 01:47
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-11, 05:21
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 12:48
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-11, 14:41
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! - xeno6696, 2012-01-11, 15:09
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-11, 14:41
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 12:48
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
dhw,
2012-01-11, 16:35
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-13, 00:26
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
dhw,
2012-01-14, 08:44
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! - David Turell, 2012-01-14, 14:52
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
dhw,
2012-01-14, 08:44
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-13, 00:26
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-11, 05:21
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 01:47
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-11, 01:11
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 00:21
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-10, 06:19
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-10, 03:35
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-10, 02:50
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-10, 06:01
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-10, 23:53
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-11, 01:03
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 01:37
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! - David Turell, 2012-01-11, 05:10
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-11, 01:37
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-11, 01:03
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
xeno6696,
2012-01-10, 23:53
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
David Turell,
2012-01-10, 06:01
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
BBella,
2011-12-08, 05:23
- Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! -
dhw,
2011-12-07, 22:26
- Afterlife - David Turell, 2011-12-06, 15:20
- Afterlife - dhw, 2012-10-16, 19:49
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-12-05, 20:26
- Afterlife -
xeno6696,
2011-12-03, 18:22
- Afterlife -
David Turell,
2011-12-05, 00:55
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- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-12-03, 16:54
- Afterlife -
xeno6696,
2011-12-03, 14:58
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-12-02, 17:03
- Afterlife -
xeno6696,
2011-12-02, 02:49
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-12-01, 17:18
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2011-11-30, 19:11