Afterlife: Matt Take Notice!!! (Introduction)
dhw,
Thus far I have read Dr. Dianne Morrissey's story.
So far, from here, I see nothing that contradicts the theory posited by the USAF researcher I posted some time ago. It's still plausible that the conscious part of her mind was fully functioning in complete correspondence with the subconscious. I think this is underlined by her "warping" to places of more comfort.
I don't know that I shared this, but when I was put into twilight sleep for my surgery, while I never floated above my body, I was positively on another world. I've always said that I don't believe that our sense organs "turn off," and in the case of this story, she was literally only dead for seconds, maybe minutes. When she describes the light emanating from her as well as other things--I've had dreams just like this. This story, does not move me.
Dr. George Ritchie's experience doesn't quite do much either. He's much less descriptive.
Take note however, that the man made of light he describes doesn't come into effect until he thinks about being dead... then... at that point...
Then the story of Reinee Pasarow.
I find it interesting that they edit out her discussion of heaven. (This is telling, to me.)
So far, at this point, especially in the one above, I have this to say:
These people have all been inculcated (as most of us are) with certain thoughts about death and dying from a very young age. In all these instances, I find it telling that we return to "things that make us feel better" which fully serves the wants and needs of our lower consciousness. I think that when these people came to a conscious realization "I am dead" that there is a sudden pang of fear, and--in these cases--our minds construct whatever reality we want. In all of these cases, it is also telling that our dividing line for "life and death" are fully blurred. Reinee's story especially. She was obviously still conscious.
I find nothing in these stories that can tell me that they weren't experiencing a waking dream--in which our conscious and subconscious collide in the now. I used to suffer from night terrors when I was a young child--does that mean that there are little men with wooden heads that float around my room before attacking me? It's especially frightening when you are convinced you are awake. I've heard similar discussions of "Incubus and Succubus" attacks where people witness black humanoid forms floating over them in bed. These episodes are linked to people who suffer from conditions like sleep apnea.
I'm not saying at all that these experiences are pure dreams--this, I do not know. But at the same time, they don't make me any more ready to accept the idea of a disembodied consciousness.
I have to pause the article at this point to go head over to a friend's.
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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"
\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"
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