Intelligent design (Introduction)

by dhw, Tuesday, November 15, 2011, 13:12 (4758 days ago) @ Abel

ABEL: I consider it derisive to tell a man that has presented a theory whose components are basically the same as those used by many others, that his argument lacks "any coherence". I could be typing random letters and words and that would lack any coherence. And even if you did believe what you wrote was true, would you also call fat women fat, ugly people ugly and stupid people stupid because it is also true? Just how polite of an Englishman are you? And what do Englishmen call derision?
I could also address every other point that you made, but I am done here. I have my perceptions and you have yours as does everyone else who has read our posts.

In my post of 3 November at 15.21, my exact words were: “I am struggling to find any coherence in your history of Planets X and Earth. May I impose on your patience and ask you to give me direct answers to the following questions, some of which I’ve asked before but which you have not answered.” There followed a list of questions relating to arguments that in my view did not cohere, the briefest and simplest of which was what you meant by the expression “a measure of immortality”. Coherence = “logical or natural connection or consistency” (Collins), and I could and can see no logic in such an expression. Why you should consider this an insult on a par with being called fat or ugly or stupid is beyond my comprehension. You did, however, give me answers to some of the questions. For instance, the “measure of immortality” was 40,000 years. I still think that either one is immortal or one is not.


You accused me of derision (= mockery) for repeating your claim that you knew which sections of the bible were true because “I have a gift when it comes to spotting the truth”. If you regard your own words as worthy of derision, so be it. You also accused me of significant distortion because, for instance, you had never said that heaven sent aliens to teach us a lesson, though you devoted a whole section to this subject on 2 November at 23.04. But you are right: you have your perceptions and I have mine, and perhaps it’s best if we leave it at that.


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