Intelligent design (Introduction)

by dhw, Wednesday, November 02, 2011, 14:54 (4771 days ago) @ Abel

Abel has explained how our creators evolved on low-entropy Planet X. He has evidence that this planet and these beings exist, and is mailing one item of proof to David. It will be interesting to hear what David makes of it. In the meantime, Abel has also told us that aliens who have visited Planet Earth in UFOs were not our creators but mortal beings like ourselves (also created by the X-ers).

Your intriguing posts spawn lots of questions, and I hope you’ll forgive me if I ask a few. Like BBella, I have a vivid imagination, but my reason likes to fill in the gaps thrown up by the imagination! You said earlier that the universe made “God”, so did your god(s) actually create Planet Earth in the first place, or simply pick on it as suitable for their purposes (apologies if I’ve missed something)? Either way, they would have needed some mode of transport. Would there have been any difference between their spacecraft and those of the ETs from Planet Y? You seem to know a great deal about the Planet Y-ers, so do you have any idea what they were doing here, and how do you know they were/are not our creators? Have you actually seen our creators?

Your description of evolution on Planet X is of life’s building blocks assembling into words, sentences, paragraphs, chapters, books, libraries, and finally conjoined libraries. How does this image differ from evolution on Planet Earth? (I’m ONLY talking about the image – not the materials.)

You write: “Given that destructive events (entropy) was such a rare event, these conjoined libraries were conferred a measure of immortality that conventional matter will never possess.” We’re talking about individual creatures, and you’ve described the evolution of predators, which depend on mortal prey to stay alive. It can be argued that all matter lives on indefinitely (it simply changes its form), but in terms of individual living creatures, either you live forever or you die. Please explain what you mean by a “measure” of immortality. (Important if we’re to understand the nature of these “gods”.)

“Eventually sexual reproduction came to be allowing these cells to exchange genetic gems and garbage greatly accelerating evolution.” Once more your Planet X evolution precisely mirrors that on Earth. The same applies to multicellular competition and intelligence, and the argument that feeding and hunting in dark matter requires greater intelligence (how have you measured it?) than in conventional matter only indicates degree not kind. All we need on Earth is one massive stroke of luck, such as happened on Planet X, and the process is identical. The only difference you have suggested is that in dark matter as you conceive it (you alone appear to know what it’s like), you don’t need the same amount of luck to start things off. As regards the progress of evolution, the argument that X bacteria had to be cleverer than Earth bacteria doesn’t explain why cleverer bacteria should spontaneously evolve into gods whereas not so clever bacteria couldn’t possibly have evolved into humans without divine assistance. If you can believe in self-assembling gods, you might just as well believe in self-assembling humans, and you have the priceless advantage of knowing first-hand that humans exist. The introduction of Planets X (and now Y) does little to add to the logic of your scenario, but then of course all our scenarios ultimately defy logic. Hence agnosticism!