Abiogenesis (Origins)

by dhw, Sunday, August 07, 2011, 15:50 (4855 days ago) @ David Turell

I expressed surprise at David's alternative explanations of life as chance versus a "miraculous happening".-DAVID: I've left the entire entry. Of course the contested phrase 'life appears to be a supernatural miracle' has always been the first step in my reasoning. The God of religions is supernatural. Life has appeared against all odds. Life requires an injection of intelligence and information to function. This is one of the legs that supports my contention that God must be a 'Universal Intelligence', and we are still in the supernatural realm, by definition. My answer to b_c was an introduction to my reasoning, which I suspect he has not reviewed.-Before I apologize to Kent (b_c) for misrepresenting our theists, let me make another effort to understand your thinking.
I have no difficulty understanding your objection to chance, and I don't mind "life appears to be...", which is nicely ambiguous, but until now this whole discussion was based on chance v. intelligent design. My problem lies in understanding what you mean by "miraculous happening", especially since you talk of an injection of intelligence and information. Here, then, are some questions for you:-1) Intelligence and information about what?
 
2) Am I wrong in assuming that you believe God invented the scientific laws that govern Nature?
 
3) Or are you saying that God did not invent them, but is able to circumvent them?
 
You have not used the word 'magic', but Kent (b_c) does, and I don't think it's inapt, used in conjunction with "miraculous happening". The gist of it is: God the scientist v. God the magician (in the sense of a wizard, not a trickster). To put it another way, do you think God said: "Let there be life" and there was life? Or do you think he worked it out?-*******-DAVID: I like to keep dhw on his toes, his rump is so tender from the picket fence.-I like to keep David on his toes. I enjoy sitting on my picket fence and watching him run round and round the divine labyrinth.