Abiogenesis (Origins)
David Turell: I must step in. You have admitted that you are not well-read in this area of science. The 'classic protein' was tossed out a long time ago. -Fair point. I made what was intended to be a broad analogy too specific. The "protein" was simply meant to illustrate the important bit: "All that is necessary to begin with is imperfect self-replication." I don't even know that (even if we knew the complete history/process) it would make sense to define one specific event as the transition from non-life to life. Conway's Game of Life demonstrates how simple of a system can lead to 'reproduction' and change over time. It is not necessary for anything we would recognise today as a living thing to spontaneously develop, only as noted above, for a self-replicating system to form. -> Going from inorganic molecules to organic alone is a giant step, and the Earth started as inorganic. -I am a little confused as to what you mean by going from inorganic to organic since, in chemistry terms, organic just means that carbon is involved? It smacks of vitalism, but perhaps I misunderstand you.
Complete thread:
- Abiogenesis -
dhw,
2011-08-01, 13:42
- Abiogenesis - xeno6696, 2011-08-02, 02:00
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-02, 17:03
- Abiogenesis -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-08-02, 23:41
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-03, 00:34
- Abiogenesis -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-08-03, 04:08
- Abiogenesis - broken_cynic, 2011-08-03, 18:09
- Abiogenesis -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-08-03, 04:08
- Abiogenesis - broken_cynic, 2011-08-03, 23:30
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-03, 00:34
- Abiogenesis -
dhw,
2011-08-03, 11:35
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-03, 18:21
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-04, 15:42
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-04, 22:25
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-05, 03:04
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-09, 00:28
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-09, 01:42
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-09, 02:04
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-10, 18:10
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-13, 01:27
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-13, 03:26
- Abiogenesis - broken_cynic, 2011-08-13, 03:41
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-13, 03:26
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-13, 01:27
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-10, 18:10
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-09, 02:04
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-09, 01:42
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-09, 00:28
- Abiogenesis -
xeno6696,
2011-08-09, 18:45
- Abiogenesis - David Turell, 2011-08-19, 15:38
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-05, 03:04
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-04, 22:25
- Abiogenesis -
dhw,
2011-08-04, 20:44
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-04, 23:29
- Abiogenesis -
dhw,
2011-08-05, 20:52
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-09, 01:05
- Abiogenesis - dhw, 2011-08-09, 15:59
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-09, 01:05
- Abiogenesis -
dhw,
2011-08-05, 20:52
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-04, 23:29
- Abiogenesis -
xeno6696,
2011-08-09, 17:48
- Abiogenesis - David Turell, 2011-08-09, 18:11
- Abiogenesis - broken_cynic, 2011-08-10, 00:22
- Abiogenesis-earliest life? -
David Turell,
2011-08-22, 13:31
- Abiogenesis-earliest life? - dhw, 2011-08-23, 16:19
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-04, 15:42
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-03, 18:26
- Abiogenesis -
dhw,
2011-08-04, 21:02
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-04, 23:51
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-05, 03:19
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-09, 00:38
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-09, 01:48
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-09, 02:09
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-09, 05:52
- Abiogenesis - broken_cynic, 2011-08-10, 00:43
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-09, 05:52
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-09, 02:09
- Abiogenesis - dhw, 2011-08-09, 16:07
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-09, 01:48
- Abiogenesis -
xeno6696,
2011-08-09, 18:50
- Abiogenesis - David Turell, 2011-08-09, 18:58
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-09, 00:38
- Abiogenesis - dhw, 2011-08-05, 21:12
- Abiogenesis -
xeno6696,
2011-08-09, 18:29
- Abiogenesis - David Turell, 2011-08-09, 19:28
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-10, 00:41
- Abiogenesis -
xeno6696,
2011-08-10, 00:57
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-10, 01:02
- Abiogenesis -
xeno6696,
2011-08-10, 01:22
- Abiogenesis - broken_cynic, 2011-08-10, 01:43
- Abiogenesis -
xeno6696,
2011-08-10, 01:22
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-10, 01:02
- Abiogenesis -
xeno6696,
2011-08-10, 00:57
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-05, 03:19
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-04, 23:51
- Abiogenesis -
dhw,
2011-08-04, 21:02
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-03, 18:21
- Abiogenesis -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-08-02, 23:41
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-05, 23:31
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-06, 02:42
- Abiogenesis -
dhw,
2011-08-06, 10:56
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-06, 15:50
- Abiogenesis -
dhw,
2011-08-07, 15:50
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-07, 18:15
- Abiogenesis - dhw, 2011-08-08, 15:09
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-09, 01:44
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-09, 15:14
- Abiogenesis - broken_cynic, 2011-08-10, 00:48
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-09, 15:14
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-07, 18:15
- Abiogenesis -
dhw,
2011-08-07, 15:50
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-06, 15:50
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-09, 01:36
- Abiogenesis - David Turell, 2011-08-09, 20:07
- Abiogenesis -
dhw,
2011-08-06, 10:56
- Abiogenesis -
dhw,
2011-08-06, 11:38
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-06, 16:03
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-09, 01:49
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-09, 19:14
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-10, 00:58
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-16, 05:35
- Abiogenesis - David Turell, 2011-08-19, 20:24
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-16, 05:35
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-10, 00:58
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-09, 19:14
- Abiogenesis -
broken_cynic,
2011-08-09, 01:49
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-06, 16:03
- Abiogenesis -
David Turell,
2011-08-06, 02:42