More Miscellany: Bechly reappears (General)

by David Turell , Wednesday, June 12, 2024, 17:02 (162 days ago) @ dhw

Examples of Darwinist thinking: Insect adaptations

DAVID: The article is at the level of species adaptation, not speciation which is the real evolution. You always defend Darwinists.

dhw: The article deals with an aspect of evolution which clearly opposes Darwin’s theory of randomness. Do you disagree that the process of evolution includes repetitions? There is nothing pro or anti Darwin in the title, so why do you claim that the headline is phony and “totally overblown Darwin-speak propaganda”.

Species adaptation is not evolution!!! And yes, adaptations are repetitious. True use of the word evolution requires speciation. My point, to which you are blinded as usual, the word 'evolution' is over sold.

Cyanobacteria

DAVID: Purpose is the result of mental activity. Thank you.

dhw: Obviously. How does that prove your God’s one and only purpose was to create us plus food???

DAVID: Obviously. No other proof indicated.

dhw: The fact that purpose indicates mental activity proves nothing except that if you believe all living things pursue the purpose of survival, you will have to agree that this indicates mental activity on their part. Enter James A. Shapiro.

DAVID: Purpose is built into all of life's activities by design.

dhw: And I have no objection to the theory that the means (autonomous cellular intelligence) of fulfilling their purpose (survival) may have been built into all life forms by design. Shapiro is still with us.

Ah, yes, DNA editing bacteria.

Oxygen and the Cambrian

QUOTE: "It seems these bursts of oxygen, assisted by the worms' excavations, helped life's spectacular diversity boom on Earth."

DAVID: You humanized version of God's actions are not worth any preference.

dhw: An eternal, immaterial, sourceless mind which enjoys creating, learning, discovering, experimenting, and always does precisely what it wants to do, seems to me to be at least as feasible as an omniscient, omnipotent mind which has to use an imperfect, messy, cumbersome and inefficient method of achieving its one and only purpose. But as you have so wisely observed, there are as many forms of God as people that invent them.

DAVID: A purposeful God created humans. The many forms come from a major problem. Whoever God is, is up for grabs. We are faced with a totally unknown personage.

dhw: A purposeful God must have had a purpose for all life forms, including the 99.9% that had no connection with humans. Your acknowledgement of “up for grabs” and “totally unknown” completely demolishes your prejudiced insistence that your God is certainly not human in any way. Dealt with on the other thread, but worth repeating here, as I shall keep note of it for whenever you present your own preconceived ideas and object to any alternatives.

I have simply admitted the form of the deity has as many forms are there are religions, Eastern and Western.