More Miscellany: Bechly reappears (General)

by David Turell , Wednesday, May 29, 2024, 18:09 (154 days ago) @ dhw

ID science

i] > DAVID: It is an unproven alternative. Everyone acknowledges cells act as if intelligent in what they currently do. Planning a very new adaptation requires more intelligence than they show.

dhw; If a theory was “proven”, it would become a fact. It is your belief that cells/cell communities are not intelligent enough to innovate, or even to think up a strategy like feigning death, or making loud noises in order to deter predators. Your God has to write a book of instructions, or pop in and give them all a course. Even your God’s existence is an unproven theory. Cellular intelligence is an unproven alternative to other equally unproven theories.

Accepted. So don't tout brilliant cell committees every chance you get.

Duckbill dinosaurs and trans-oceanic dispersal

DAVID: My form is not your form.

dhw: You are still accepting Darwin’s theory of common descent.

No, mine mimics Darwin's.

The brain: studies on memory

dhw: An organism which, in your own words, “runs its own show” and “decides what to record” etc. works autonomously. God may have given it this autonomous ability, but that does not mean that its “show” and its decisions are preprogrammed by instructions.

DAVID: That is exactly what it can mean.

dhw: It runs its own show, but God runs it. It decides what to record, but God decides what it should record. Your use of language is bewildering.

No, God built in all those plasticity mechanisms to run on their own.

Moths fake out bats

dhw: So were the 99.9% of extinct species not designed or badly designed by your God?>
DAVID: Again, your distorted view of the pattern-method of evolution. It requires extinctions.

dhw: So your God deliberately designed and culled 99.9 out of 100 species irrelevant to his purpose because somebody told him that’s what you have to do if you want evolution. You can’t understand the basic explanation: that evolution proceeds only through changing conditions, which result in extinctions but also in the innovations which produce new species.

You are arguing from the position of natural evolution. I follow God-designed evolution.

dhw: There is no law that your God must obey. If he exists, this is the system he invented, and so it is fair to assume that instead of being a messy, inefficient designer, he may have had a good reason for WANTING the ever changing history of life. But you prefer to insult him.

I have not insulted Him. I have simply pointed out that God chose this messy system for His own reasons. Therefore, it must be the BEST system available. You do not know how to defend God because you don't know how to think about him.