philosophy of science: meaning and functions (Introduction)

by dhw, Thursday, September 27, 2018, 11:38 (2031 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: I wasn’t asking you to blame God. I was pointing out that it requires faith to believe in a loving, caring God.

TONY: Yes it requires faith and He does not have to be loving or caring. […] Further unless God's personality and thought pattern are not viewed in the realm of pure purpose, the interpretation will not be accurate.

dhw: Nobody knows which interpretation is accurate, or what the purpose might have been.

DAVID: Evolution is a guide to purpose. Look at what has appeared against all odds, humans! The complexity of evolution and life require as designer.

All life appeared against the odds, and of course if God exists he will have had a purpose. And I have conceded that the complexities suggest design, but not necessarily one designer (atheistic panpsychist hypothesis), and your designer is no less of a mystery than the origin and complexities of life.

dhw (to David): Why are you so sure your God created humans without ever having experienced any of the thoughts that humans have?

DAVID: Since we are in His image our thoughts are similar but His are not at a human level of understanding. Always remember the difference. The image is only mental.

dhw: What is this “level of understanding”? Either he has experienced certain thoughts or he hasn’t.

DAVID: Quibbling: God is not human. Of course He has our thoughts, but with His degree of creation powers He is thinking at a level we cannot reach. Again, you can't seem to leave your humanizing view of Him, probably ground in your inability to accept His existence at His level of power.

I agree that God is not human, thank you for agreeing that he has our thoughts, but no thanks for not explaining what you mean by those thoughts being “at a level we cannot reach”. Tony agreed that he may have experienced boredom. So since he is God, his boredom would be at a level of boredom that we cannot reach. So what? Boredom is boredom.