philosophy of science: meaning and functions (Introduction)
Yesterday’s posts should have been my last before leaving, but of course I couldn’t resist seeing if you had replied, and now of course I can’t resist replying!
dhw: The material contains information which we humans analyse. Analysis requires a mental source. We can perhaps agree that the first cause is energy turning into materials, but it requires faith to believe that the energy knew what it was doing.
DAVID: The information is not just here for analysis. The information runs the universe and life and must have a source.
Either your God, or natural laws. See below.
DAVID: Ah, there is the difference in views. The presence of an organized universe with humans is highly suggestive that the energy was a mind that knew what it was doing.
dhw: I shan’t oppose that argument, except to say it is equally suggestive that materials follow natural laws of self-organization, and faith in the laws of nature is no less reasonable or unreasonable than faith in an unknown, unknowable, sourceless mastermind.
DAVID: And the natural laws appeared by magic in the analysis by the Agnostic mind?
And a universal conscious mind appeared by magic in the analysis by the theist mind?
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- Is the philosophy of science dead? -
David Turell,
2015-05-15, 14:00
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
David Turell,
2016-09-09, 00:21
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
dhw,
2016-09-09, 13:22
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
David Turell,
2016-09-09, 19:55
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
dhw,
2016-09-10, 13:20
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
David Turell,
2016-09-10, 16:56
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
dhw,
2016-09-11, 13:18
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
David Turell,
2016-09-11, 15:21
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
dhw,
2016-09-12, 12:21
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
David Turell,
2016-09-12, 18:12
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
dhw,
2016-09-13, 11:53
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
David Turell,
2016-09-14, 01:59
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
dhw,
2016-09-14, 12:25
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
David Turell,
2016-09-14, 15:55
- philosophy of science: facts and truth -
David Turell,
2016-12-24, 19:07
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-09-02, 22:08
- philosophy of science: humans and quantum mechanics - David Turell, 2018-09-03, 00:48
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-09-03, 09:50
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-09-03, 15:03
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-09-04, 09:37
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-09-04, 14:20
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-09-05, 08:08
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-09-05, 14:45
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-09-10, 09:00
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
Balance_Maintained,
2018-09-10, 16:59
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-09-10, 21:36
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dhw,
2018-09-11, 13:10
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
Balance_Maintained,
2018-09-11, 21:57
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dhw,
2018-09-12, 09:02
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2018-09-12, 18:44
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-09-12, 21:02
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2018-09-12, 21:42
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David Turell,
2018-09-12, 22:47
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2018-09-13, 05:03
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-09-13, 05:36
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dhw,
2018-09-13, 11:32
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
Balance_Maintained,
2018-09-13, 13:44
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dhw,
2018-09-14, 10:07
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Balance_Maintained,
2018-09-14, 12:42
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-09-14, 15:49
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-09-15, 11:45
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
Balance_Maintained,
2018-09-15, 13:42
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-09-15, 19:21
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-09-16, 09:25
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-09-16, 15:16
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
Balance_Maintained,
2018-09-16, 17:14
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-09-16, 18:39
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2018-09-17, 03:36
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-09-17, 14:58
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2018-09-17, 03:36
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David Turell,
2018-09-16, 18:39
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2018-09-16, 17:14
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2018-09-16, 17:00
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-09-16, 18:23
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dhw,
2018-09-17, 11:44
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Balance_Maintained,
2018-09-17, 13:00
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David Turell,
2018-09-17, 15:29
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - Balance_Maintained, 2018-09-18, 00:24
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-09-18, 13:54
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-09-18, 15:44
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-09-19, 10:24
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-09-19, 15:07
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dhw,
2018-09-20, 12:21
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-09-20, 18:41
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2018-09-20, 22:48
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2018-09-20, 23:11
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2018-09-20, 23:32
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-09-20, 23:47
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2018-09-20, 23:32
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dhw,
2018-09-21, 15:45
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dhw,
2018-09-21, 16:05
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-09-21, 20:51
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2018-09-22, 00:15
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2018-09-23, 13:37
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dhw,
2018-09-23, 13:44
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-09-23, 15:59
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2018-09-23, 18:40
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dhw,
2018-09-24, 09:09
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-09-24, 23:24
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dhw,
2018-09-24, 09:09
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2018-09-23, 18:01
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David Turell,
2018-09-23, 18:56
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2018-09-23, 19:56
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-09-23, 21:09
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2018-09-23, 19:56
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dhw,
2018-09-24, 09:16
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dhw,
2018-09-24, 09:29
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Balance_Maintained,
2018-09-24, 21:43
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David Turell,
2018-09-24, 23:46
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dhw,
2018-09-26, 13:00
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David Turell,
2018-09-26, 19:35
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-09-27, 11:38
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
Balance_Maintained,
2018-09-27, 16:39
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David Turell,
2018-09-27, 19:09
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
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2018-09-27, 19:38
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-09-27, 23:42
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2018-09-27, 19:38
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-09-28, 10:16
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2018-09-28, 13:19
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dhw,
2018-09-29, 10:13
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2018-09-29, 13:59
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-09-29, 15:23
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dhw,
2018-09-30, 11:00
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-09-30, 15:13
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dhw,
2018-10-01, 12:34
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-10-01, 14:55
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-10-02, 13:23
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Balance_Maintained,
2018-10-02, 17:20
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - dhw, 2018-10-03, 11:36
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David Turell,
2018-10-03, 00:18
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-10-03, 11:54
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-10-03, 15:12
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-10-04, 10:52
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Balance_Maintained,
2018-10-04, 14:16
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-10-04, 14:54
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2018-10-05, 09:29
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2018-10-06, 12:18
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2018-10-06, 15:33
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dhw,
2018-10-07, 10:47
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-10-07, 14:53
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-10-08, 14:10
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-10-08, 15:11
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-10-09, 09:45
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-10-09, 17:54
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-10-10, 09:36
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-10-10, 18:37
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-10-11, 12:17
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-10-11, 15:39
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-10-11, 12:17
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-10-10, 18:37
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-10-10, 09:36
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-10-09, 17:54
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-10-09, 09:45
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-10-08, 15:11
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-10-08, 14:10
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-10-07, 14:53
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-10-07, 10:47
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-10-06, 15:33
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
dhw,
2018-10-06, 12:18
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-10-05, 15:17
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
Balance_Maintained,
2018-10-05, 13:04
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-10-04, 14:45
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2018-10-04, 14:16
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dhw,
2018-10-04, 10:52
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2018-10-03, 15:12
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dhw,
2018-10-03, 11:54
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Balance_Maintained,
2018-10-02, 17:20
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2018-10-02, 13:23
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2018-10-01, 14:55
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dhw,
2018-10-01, 12:34
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Balance_Maintained,
2018-09-30, 19:29
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David Turell,
2018-09-30, 19:50
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dhw,
2018-10-01, 12:52
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2018-09-30, 15:13
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2018-09-29, 13:59
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2018-09-29, 10:13
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2018-09-28, 13:19
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2018-09-27, 18:42
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2018-09-27, 19:37
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2018-09-27, 19:37
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2018-09-27, 11:38
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2018-09-26, 19:35
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2018-09-24, 23:46
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2018-09-23, 18:56
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dhw,
2018-09-23, 13:44
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dhw,
2018-09-21, 16:05
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2018-09-20, 23:11
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dhw,
2018-09-20, 12:21
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2018-09-20, 01:59
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2018-09-19, 15:07
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dhw,
2018-09-19, 10:24
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David Turell,
2018-09-18, 15:44
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David Turell,
2018-09-17, 15:29
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-09-17, 15:21
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David Turell,
2018-09-15, 19:06
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2018-09-16, 09:33
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-09-16, 15:22
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2018-09-15, 11:56
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Balance_Maintained,
2018-09-14, 12:42
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dhw,
2018-09-14, 10:07
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions - David Turell, 2018-09-13, 15:49
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2018-09-10, 09:00
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dhw,
2018-09-05, 08:08
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David Turell,
2018-09-04, 14:20
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dhw,
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David Turell,
2018-09-03, 15:03
- philosophy of science: meaning and functions -
David Turell,
2018-09-02, 22:08
- philosophy of science: facts and truth -
David Turell,
2016-12-24, 19:07
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
David Turell,
2016-09-14, 15:55
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
dhw,
2016-09-14, 12:25
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
David Turell,
2016-09-14, 01:59
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
dhw,
2016-09-13, 11:53
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
David Turell,
2016-09-12, 18:12
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dhw,
2016-09-12, 12:21
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism - David Turell, 2021-03-24, 18:55
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
David Turell,
2016-09-11, 15:21
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dhw,
2016-09-11, 13:18
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
David Turell,
2016-09-10, 16:56
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
dhw,
2016-09-10, 13:20
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
David Turell,
2016-09-09, 19:55
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
dhw,
2016-09-09, 13:22
- philosophy of science dead? realism vs. empiricism -
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