God and evolution: weaverbirds (Evolution)
DAVID: You know my reasoning: balance of nature to supply life's energy for evolution to proceed for millions of years. As for the nest, please note Tony's entry today. God's behavioral instructions.
dhw: The complicated knots are not behavioural, but in any case the question is whether God designed the "variant" himself, or the weaverbird designed it. Balance of nature means life continues, whether there are humans or not. Nothing to do with God’s sole purpose being the production of humans and everything else being related to that. See “God and evolution”.
DAVID: You always skip the nuanced part of the balance argument: constant balance means evolution can take a long time with a source of energy always present, even during extinctions.
DHW:There is no such thing as “constant balance”. The balance is always changing, as species come and go. Evolution is the process by which different forms of life develop, and it will continue as long as there is life and time. Yet again, as you keep agreeing, the continuousness does not in any way support your dogmatic insistence that God’s only purpose was to create humans and that everything else (including the weaverbird’s nest) was related to that purpose! Life (and evolution) has gone on and will go on, with or without humans, until it ends, and it will take as long as it takes!
Balance does not mean or imply stasis. It is not a static thing. Of course things are changing. It's like a top or a tight rope walker. They are constantly in motion, making constant tiny corrections, but the end result is balance.
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
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