God and evolution (Evolution)
DAVID: I know it was my idea [referring to "delay" owing to God's possible limitations]. In these discussions I ruminate about possibilities and we explore them. 'Limits' and 'delay' are ideas we explored, not carved in stone.
dhw: Of course they are not carved in stone. [..]
DAVID: If you agree not carved in stone, then I can ruminate about possibilities, since that is all they are. Clear explanations do not exist.
Clear explanations certainly do exist, but that does not mean they are right. I have offered you three clear explanations that do away with the dichotomy between your two hypotheses, but those do seem to be carved in stone (“I won’t leave my beliefs just as you stay on your fence”). However,“ruminating about possibilities” is the whole purpose of this forum, and that applies to all subjects, including the existence, purpose and nature of God. There would be no need for any discussion at all if the facts were known. And so we shall, I hope, go on ruminating together!
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dhw: I am only pointing out that Tony disagrees with one of your two central dogmas, and we still don’t know how far he supports the other one, so you can hardly claim to be “very close together”.
DAVID: Tony and I come from different religions, but we both believe God is in charge.
Most theists do. By “very close together”, I thought you meant he shared your ideas on God’s purposes, methods and nature – i.e. the subject under discussion.
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2017-03-28, 19:36
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2017-03-28, 21:28
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2017-03-29, 14:27
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2017-03-29, 23:44
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2017-03-23, 14:53
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2017-03-22, 14:14
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2017-03-21, 13:49
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2017-03-21, 08:30
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2017-03-19, 14:31
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2017-03-18, 13:45
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dhw,
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- God and evolution -
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2017-03-18, 00:29
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dhw,
2017-03-17, 12:54
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