Arguments against Design (General)
Feel free to add more objections, to comment on these objections, to disagree with these objections, but please remember that they are an attempt to provide a neutral summary and I am not putting forward arguments of my own. Yet. > > I would add, that no outside designer is needed if within every element (seen and unseen) that IS, lies the ability to be what it was, what it IS and, what it will become. - That sentence reads like a mystical statement... Isn't that the exact property of something that exists? - I read that as: "Every element that exists must have the capacity to have had an origin, have a present moment, and a future moment." - That could also be read "Must be traceable through time." - That could also mean "Any action or reaction upon the object must be reversible." - Mind cleaning that up just a bit?
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2009-07-29, 13:13
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2009-08-03, 20:23
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2009-08-03, 15:44
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2009-08-02, 06:41
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2009-08-11, 00:59
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2009-08-08, 11:04
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2009-08-07, 17:37
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2009-08-06, 14:40
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BBella,
2009-08-03, 20:11
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2009-08-02, 01:53
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BBella,
2009-08-01, 21:24
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2009-08-01, 17:14
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dhw,
2009-07-31, 12:06
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2009-07-29, 22:30
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George Jelliss,
2009-08-09, 16:54
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2009-08-10, 08:51
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George Jelliss,
2009-08-10, 15:11
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2009-08-10, 15:11
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