Arguments against Design (General)
It has also been argued by proponents of design that some of the developments in the course of evolution itself are too complex to have come about without the input of a designing intelligence. - It is not possible to simply throw this possibility aside. I actually think that I am a small part of a designing universal intelligence. The next part is not intellectual. The concept makes me feel good, as when I think of loving my wife. Both my love of her and my concept of that universal intelligence are at the same level of emotional thought. > In spite of my abject failure to bring order to the evolution thread with a summary, I will now try to summarize the objections to design, plus the complications involved in such a concept: - > 3) George: "Since a conscious designer would be a life-form, such a hypothesis entirely undermines the theory by assuming that life already existed before life evolved." - Since we cannot intimately 'know' the designer, how do we know that it is a life-form as we define that term. Adler makes the designer a 'person like no other person',but that is not our form of natural life. It is supernatural. - > 4) The free-for-all of life on Earth shows no sign of the presence of any kind of designer. - This can prove just the opposite conclusion. If one wanted to create a factory for all living things, the Earth is a perfect design, just like Paley's watch. No one has ever found an undesigned factory. - And here is how intelligent design can speeed evolution. Punctuated equilibrium in the lab: - http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2009/727/1
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