An inventive mechanism (Evolution)

by David Turell @, Friday, October 03, 2014, 20:00 (3465 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: since DNA is implanted with the startup information which is then continuously used as experience and new information is added. It is all one continuum. [/i]
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> dhw; Agreed, ..... I am happy purely for the sake of this discussion to say God did it, because my focus is on the nature of the mechanism that runs evolution, not on how the mechanism got here. Hence the heading of this thread.-But you must recognize the start of the evolutionary process for life must include its beginning as well ss its subsequent events and mechanisms. They are intimately related.
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> dhw: Do you think your God is incapable of designing an autonomously inventive mechanism (even though you believe he has done so with the human brain)? Please answer.-Yes, but. I feel (do not know) taht the wevidence for God's power is strong enough to assume that such a mechanism contains guidelines for speciation. Just as a computer program can write a new program, it does so under the guidance of guiding instructions.-> 
> dhw: This is the sort of equivocation that leads to so many misunderstandings. The question is whether the mechanism is autonomously inventive or preprogrammed. Yet again you appear to be agreeing with me, but you do not actually say God might have implanted an AUTONOMOUS mechanism. .... Do you or don't you now accept the possibility that speciation may be the product of an autonomous inventive mechanism (possibly created by your God) which takes its own unpreprogrammed decisions?-No. As stated above I can only envision a guided inventive program, and think the guidance is writen into the inventive program, since it must take into account the many possible environmental and preditory challenges that may well be unexpected. Life is not only dealing with its own evolution and the evolution of rival animals, but also dealing an evolving uiniverse and Earth.
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> dhw: Either the genome has an autonomous mechanism or it doesn't. You have consistently defined “inventive” in terms of obeying God's instructions, instead of “creating new things and performing new actions without being preprogrammed”-I've answered above. I don't think it is possible to create a new species without intergrating the past programming of life with the new experiences the genome finds or is told.-******** -> dhw:(I'll watch the video tomorrow. Thank you for posting it)-Just trying to show yhou that the cells are primarily automated factories. But not is the brain wwith the plasticity found.


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