Tony\'s God (Introduction)
Sorry for the delay in response, Tony, we have been out of town for the holidays.
However, I both agree and disagree with your comments. Yes, God et all could be considered Alien, foreign, non-native to this world.
The "god/s" I was speaking about that have the qualities that the scripture texts usually give to "God," to me, I believe, describes a race of beings our forefathers of the scriptures may have called "God" and many have since bought into, but, in my understanding, this "God" gives me more the feel of a human like being/s that have needs and wants. Even if those wants may be to look out for our good, or not so much, considering the flood (who knows? but after watching the recent Ancient Aliens, the flood may have been for our good as well. I will leave that unjudged on my part). But I did want to clarify, that from my perspective, the "God" of the sacred scriptures is not the same god as the Creator of all that IS.
And yes, I agree that God could be considered ALL THAT IS.
From my perspective, the Creator of ALL that IS, could be considered similar to the way some ancient beliefs describe mother earth. They call her Gaia. Here is one description of Gaia I've found that evokes the sentiment I am going for:
Mother Earth is the sentience or soul of our planet. A sentience is that which is conscious or aware of itself and its purpose. A sentience is more like an emotional response and less like an intellectual process. Gaia sentience (or Mother Earth) animates the planet, gives it purpose and makes life on Earth possible. Our past is deeply rooted in the earth and our future depends upon our ability to recreate a relationship with our sentient planet. We hope that you will accept Mother Earth's invitation to open your heart and change the world by honoring all moments with respect, partnership and peace.
The above description describes mother earth as a sentient being, as a whole, which includes us, we are her and we are her children at the same time, as we are made from her elements. A sentient being is "less" like an intellectual being, in that it doesn't have "thought," as a whole, it responds as a whole to itself and to outside forces. It describes a sentient being as being "more" like a being that "responds" on an emotional level. When you search the word emotion, and get to its root, you get a feel of what I believe is also the root of how a sentient being is. The word disturbance, motion, movement, reaction, all come into play. This is what I see as The true Creator God. All that IS, is sentient. Everything that IS, is sentient and responds on an emotional level from within it's own integument to ALL THAT IS. The difference is...I/we do not know the boundaries of the circumference of the being of ALL THAT IS, nor it's shelf life....like we think we know Gaia's.
So, for me, to make it clear from my perspective, The God is a sentient being that responds to itself in an emotionally reactive way. God is not a being that speaks from the heavens or comes down from the heavens to speak with humans or directs them to write books about it's exploits and teachings. That, to me, would be another race of beings, more advance I grant you (maybe so much so that they could be considered god by a less advanced civilization), but not The Creator of "ALL THAT IS."
However, I would also argue that if God, and I use that term here sole as the province of the original, the first cause, etc, is all that is, then it also contains personality, as personality exists.
I believe, because of the sentient creative nature of the ALL THAT IS, this being we are all a part of, I agree, it definitely can have personality...as a matter of fact, because of it's sentient emotional nature, it can be all or anything you "need" it to be, many times, right when you need it to be. Because, it reacts/responds/creates in reaction to emotion. Need is an emotion. When we have a need, the sentient being of ALL THAT IS, does create what it is we need. As long as our subconscious or other surrounding factors, are not interfering with that creation (a greater need). There are many, many books of wisdom, self-help books, etc written on the creative sentient nature we all are and are a part of. We, as is said, have been created in the image of this sentient being. We are all holographically a mirror image of the one sentient being, THE ALL THAT IS. We, too, are creative emotional beings.
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dhw,
2011-11-19, 17:59
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-19, 19:37
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2011-11-19, 19:58
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2011-11-20, 19:49
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2011-11-20, 19:53
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2011-11-20, 22:45
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dhw,
2011-11-21, 17:45
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2011-11-22, 17:34
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2011-11-23, 14:33
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2011-11-23, 20:38
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2011-11-23, 21:34
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2011-11-27, 23:30
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2011-11-28, 13:40
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2011-11-25, 23:46
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2011-11-24, 18:53
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2011-11-23, 21:02
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2011-11-22, 18:02
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dhw,
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