Science vs. Religion: (Chapter 4) (Humans)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Sunday, July 10, 2011, 03:21 (4681 days ago) @ David Turell


> > You've been saying all this time that Natural Selection isn't enough but if you agree that all of these other events are selective pressure...
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> > Then Natural Selection really is king. As I once said, it's the filter that determines with finality what genes get to continue. I'm either completely missing your point or have no idea what I'm talking about.
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> See my previous answer. If you include all the chance occurrances in environment and mutations as part of natural selection then I can see your point of view. But as I have said, I view it as a passive end point. What is active are the chance stressors and the ability of the genome to survive by change or by being intitially superior at the time of the new stressor.-Yeah, I think our differences are largely clear. I have always understood NS as the entire system... which means that our disagreement over the last few years is probably more semantical. But it's not just me... my professors clearly learned it that way too, and I know that Pigliucci's view is echoed here as well. The entire theory is called "evolution by natural selection" and this holistic view ecompasses the entire process from stimulus to action.-But now I know why we disagree, and that is always worth something...

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