Science vs. Religion: (Chapter One) [Blood Clotting] (Humans)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Saturday, February 19, 2011, 05:19 (4822 days ago) @ xeno6696

David,-We haven't had this discussion before, but you spend a good deal of time on Behe's blood clotting example of "irreducible complexity."-In nature, are there not clotting systems in other animals that are less complex than what we find in humans? -If the answer to this is "yes," then we have a case where complexity can get reduced. -Or is the blood-clotting mechanism something that is clearly the same across all species?

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Science vs. Religion: The 500-year War - xeno6696, 2011-02-13, 23:00
- Science vs. Religion: (Chapter One) - xeno6696, 2011-02-13, 23:25
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    - Science vs. Religion: (Chapter One) [Blood Clotting] - David Turell, 2011-02-19, 05:23
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- Science vs. Religion: The 500-year War - David Turell, 2011-02-14, 00:48
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- Science vs. Religion: The 500-year War - xeno6696, 2011-02-18, 03:16
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- Science vs. Religion: The 500-year War (Flood Treatment) - xeno6696, 2011-02-19, 01:11
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- Science vs. Religion: (Chapter Two) - xeno6696, 2011-02-19, 22:53
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- Science vs. Religion: (Chapter Two) [David vs. Guth et al] - xeno6696, 2011-02-19, 23:30
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        Science vs. Religion: (Chapter Two) [David vs. Guth et al] - xeno6696, 2011-02-20, 20:38
- Science vs. Religion: (Chapter Two) [In Conclusion] - xeno6696, 2011-02-20, 06:50
- Science vs. Religion (Chapter 3) - xeno6696, 2011-06-05, 15:09
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- Science vs. Religion: (Chapter 4) - xeno6696, 2011-07-04, 04:44
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  - Science vs. Religion: (Chapter 4): In Conclusio - xeno6696, 2011-07-10, 16:00
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- Science vs. Religion: (Chapter 5) - xeno6696, 2011-08-01, 02:14
  - (Chapter 5): The God Module - xeno6696, 2011-08-01, 02:54
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- Science vs. Religion: (Chapter 6) - xeno6696, 2011-08-08, 23:44
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