Science vs. Religion: (Chapter One) (Humans)
> > > What's troubling you? > > > > I have no idea what Godel did, from what you showed me. I though that he proved you can't prove everthing. What did he do in simple language? > > The meat of the theorem says this: In a formally defined system, there will always be one thing about the system that is true, but isn't described by any combinations of the axioms without contradicting one of them. In mathematics, this is why we have more than one field. Typically a new field arises to explain such an inadequacy. So, it may not be provable in ONE system, but that doesn't mean ALL systems.- As I understand you now Godel generalized in his thorem, but it cannot be applied to a very specific set of facts. This is the impression of Godel given to me by the imprecise way it has been presented by various writers: 'Some very specific conjecture, based on fact can never be proven.'-Yes, no, maybe? It sounds like you are saying 'no'. In the mathematical forest I'm like a babe in the woods.
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