Seconded. (The nature of a \'Creator\')
MATT (to Romansh): Maybe I'm just hitting the same problem you have. Something within the universe can't exactly [be] independent of the universe.-My original definition has undergone several revisions, as a result of these discussions. Even the one that you originally seconded has been jettisoned, and I'm wondering if perhaps you missed the last one:-An entity's conscious ability to control its decision-making process within given constraints.-Does this cover all the options? Of course the real issue is whether we have it or not, but we've probably exhausted all the arguments now and still don't know the answer. (That may well apply to all our discussions, though perhaps we can say we now have a better idea about why we are so ignorant!)
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2010-09-04, 17:55
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2010-09-06, 03:13
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2010-09-12, 07:48
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2010-09-12, 13:53
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2010-09-12, 17:26
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2010-09-12, 21:45
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xeno6696,
2010-09-13, 21:04
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-13, 21:54
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2010-09-14, 22:28
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2011-09-13, 23:00
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dhw,
2011-09-14, 22:24
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David Turell,
2020-03-18, 17:39
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David Turell,
2020-03-18, 17:39
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dhw,
2011-09-14, 22:24
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David Turell,
2011-09-13, 23:00
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-13, 21:54
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xeno6696,
2010-09-13, 21:04
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-12, 22:11
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2010-09-12, 21:45
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2010-09-12, 17:26
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2010-09-12, 13:53
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romansh,
2010-09-12, 07:48
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2010-09-12, 05:05
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romansh,
2010-09-06, 19:24
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dhw,
2010-09-06, 13:07
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romansh,
2010-09-06, 03:13
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romansh,
2010-09-04, 17:55
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dhw,
2010-09-04, 12:17
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xeno6696,
2010-09-05, 16:09
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dhw,
2010-09-05, 22:24
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xeno6696,
2010-09-06, 04:47
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dhw,
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romansh,
2010-09-06, 17:54
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xeno6696,
2010-09-19, 18:39
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-19, 18:41
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dhw,
2010-09-20, 12:04
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BBella,
2010-09-21, 07:26
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BBella,
2010-09-21, 07:26
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dhw,
2010-09-20, 12:04
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-19, 18:41
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xeno6696,
2010-09-19, 18:39
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dhw,
2010-09-19, 11:06
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romansh,
2010-09-06, 17:54
- Seconded. - David Turell, 2010-09-07, 02:19
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xeno6696,
2010-09-06, 17:00
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dhw,
2010-09-06, 16:54
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xeno6696,
2010-09-06, 04:47
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romansh,
2010-09-05, 22:56
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dhw,
2010-09-05, 22:24
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-11, 12:44
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David Turell,
2010-09-03, 14:40