Free Will (The nature of a \'Creator\')
I was thinking about consciousness earlier, having read many posts about it recently. And while this is slightly off topic, I am beginning to think that consciousness is not the point that separates man from animal. Even animals seem to a certain extent, self aware. > > My musings lead me to two things that animals do not posses, however, and have forced me to reevaluate my position on consciousness, and my hierarchy of life. Plants contain life, but no consciousness. Animals contain consciousness, and limited reasoning skills, but no creativity(imagination, abstract reasoning skills). Human's contain life, consciousness, creativity, and free will. They are not inseparable, but they are sequentially dependent. You the inanimate can not be conscious, the unconscious(non-sentient, not to be confused with the layman vernacular) can not create, and without creativity, you can not make the abstract reasoning necessary for freewill, because you would always be subject/slave to your instincts.-I just started reading a book that attacks materialism, and one of the author's definitions of consciousness contains a subcomponent called being "self-aware," meaning "the entity is aware that it is conscious." -I think that in the case of Man v. the rest of Mammalia, this is the deciding factor.
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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"
\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"
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dhw,
2010-09-03, 11:26
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David Turell,
2010-09-03, 14:40
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dhw,
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2010-09-04, 17:55
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dhw,
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2010-09-13, 21:04
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Balance_Maintained,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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2010-09-13, 21:54
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xeno6696,
2010-09-13, 21:04
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Balance_Maintained,
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2010-09-12, 17:26
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xeno6696,
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romansh,
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romansh,
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dhw,
2010-09-06, 13:07
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romansh,
2010-09-06, 03:13
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romansh,
2010-09-04, 17:55
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dhw,
2010-09-04, 12:17
- Free Will - romansh, 2010-09-03, 21:19
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2010-09-05, 16:09
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dhw,
2010-09-05, 22:24
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xeno6696,
2010-09-06, 04:47
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romansh,
2010-09-05, 22:56
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2010-09-05, 22:24
- Free Will - romansh, 2010-09-06, 20:10
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-11, 12:44
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