Free Will (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by romansh , Sunday, September 12, 2010, 17:26 (5185 days ago) @ xeno6696
edited by unknown, Sunday, September 12, 2010, 17:36

Think about that. How could an unconscious will be "free will?" It is exactly this question that makes ME question how much free will I as a person actually have. 
Frankly, I can't see any mechanism for will of any flavour being "free". So I don't need to hold the belief of will being free. Just because we "live" in our consciousness, I don't see the need to limit the definition to our conscious will. Not specifying consciousness as a requirement does not preclude it from my definition.-If we have any firm evidence that our unconsciousnesses can (or cannot) be independent of the universe then I'd be happy to consider the conscious within the definition. Until then it remains an unnecessary constraint - in my opinion.-> The simplest form of Zen ...
I think Buddhism may hold some interesting reflections on reality. But I'm ignorant when it comes to Buddhist teachings.
 
> To what extent can an unconscious will operate in this scenario? At best it can fire clouds past the mountain, but only the mountain is the final arbiter. Think of why your body shuts down motor action while you sleep: because it knows that the unconscious will is dangerous. Everyone from Hindus, Christians, Jews, Muslims, Freud, and Jung all have guarding philosophies against those functions that seem to be unconscious. -I would not be "me" without mine. -> This exercise so firmly ties together consciousness and free will that I do not see how you could possibly separate them. -I would seem so - but this is purely an anthropic interpretation. 
Does any atom or fundamental particle, behave in a way that is independent of the universe. Do any collection of molecules behave independently of the universe? Does any immensly complicated collection of molecules behave independently? I don't actually see this happening and I can see no reason to assume the universe behaves in this way. -Call it determinism, materialism, physcalism, naturalism - whatever - I see no reason to assume my particular complex collection of molecules is independent of the universe either. In fact the boundary between the universe and me is likely illusory as well. It's what I decide to define it.