Panpsychism Makes a Comeback; physicist denies (General)

by dhw, Monday, January 07, 2019, 11:07 (2145 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: If we are trying to delve into the secrets of the universe, why must we confine ourselves to Hossenfelder’s definition? What is wrong with the one I offered? I know what you believe, and I am simply offering an alternative, which I find no more and no less believable than your own. And I am still surprised that as a dualist you believe that “consciousness arises from standard molecules made from standard elements, which are the basic combinations of the 25 particles”. However, that would fit in with the atheistic version of panpsychism that I have suggested.

DAVID: I'm a dualist . The sentence you quoted refers to the universe as based on the standard particles plus the ones we don't know know about for lack of power in the LHC. From that beginning of particles we find we have consciousness in humans and conscious animals, managed by God's design. For me your panpsychism is God's consciousness pervading the universe. The particles themselves are not conscious, but combined into matter act as receivers.

Thank you for the clarification. Consciousness in your view, then, does NOT “arise from standard molecules etc.” The materialist view is that consciousness DOES arise from standard molecules etc. And nobody knows which version is true. As for panpsychism, it can fit in with your panentheism, or with an atheistic form of pantheism.