Quantum Physics: Lights Frozen in Time (General)

by David Turell , Friday, August 19, 2016, 20:10 (3016 days ago) @ dhw


> DAVID: Quantum results are always affected by the experimenter's conscious choices.
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> dhw: For me, this alone throws into question your claim that there is such a thing as a “planned construction pattern” with an “integrated quantum plan”.-You are incorrect. The particles' properties are well understood. The aspect of the researcher's consciousness affects the result as a wave or particle form, changes in late choice decisions and so forth. All researchers understand the role of conscious decisions.
> QUOTE: At this level it is strikingly evident that there may be no objective physical reality at all. What the scientific community once thought was there in the sub-atomic realm and what the educated world was taught to perceive as real simply does not exist…
 
> Niels Bohr, who is regarded as the father of quantum physics, pointed out that a particle only becomes a particle when someone is looking at it. The new physics tells us that the observer cannot observe anything without changing what he sees.
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> These comments are extended to the whole of what we call “reality” (see below), and we seem once more to be entering the realm of epistemology. For me, the fact that physical reality can only be observed subjectively does not mean there is no objective physical reality. It simply means that we cannot know what that objective reality is. -Reality is behind the quantum wall of probability. This is what Ruth Kastner was trying to tell you.
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> dhw: It's a pity they don't give concrete examples. Altering the outcome of events is very different from changing the objects of our perception and shaping our physical reality. It would indeed be astonishing if scientists could prove that by wanting to perceive the sun as a bar of chocolate, I could actually make it into a bar of chocolate. But perhaps I have totally misunderstood what they are saying!-They are referring to known examples of 'late choice' experiments when a late decision changes the beginning results! Conscious choice changes results since quanta can be several things at once. 
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> dhw: QUOTE: If our bodies, at least metaphorically, are made of frozen light, they maintain the characteristics of light, which means they have frequency. Matter then may be thought of as light of a higher density. Thus, drawing on the implications of modern physics, we can conclude that human beings are made of light held in matter.
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> How does “metaphorically” translate into human beings and all other forms of matter actually BEING light? Why not energy held in matter? The next quote exacerbates my confusion:-I can only say that Kabballah also says we are mystically beings of light. I don't know how either.-> 
> dhw: QUOTE: It is important to stress that Gerber's concept of matter as frozen light may not be merely metaphoric. Gerber describes the cellular matrix of the physical body as a complex energy interference pattern, interpenetrated by the organizing bio energetic field of the etheric body. The physical body is therefore an energy field, and the field is made up of segments of vibration.
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> So we are light held in matter (which is a "higher density" light anyway), though this may or may not be a metaphor, our cells are a complex energy interference pattern, and our physical body is an energy field made up of segments of vibration. We know that light is a form of energy, but that does not mean all energy is a form of light, so what does this actually mean? That all matter, energy and vibrations are light, or light is energy plus vibrations? What are these “vibrations”? You must forgive my ignorance, but there are probably others out there who are just as confused as I am.-They are making the point that photons (perhaps over-making it), are everywhere. Just as in life protons are everywhere carrying the energy of life.