DILEMMAS: A Response to DHW (Evolution)

by David Turell , Wednesday, November 19, 2014, 22:14 (3655 days ago) @ dhw


> dhw: Your thinking is becoming harder and harder for me to follow. Clearly the bush is created by variations. However, you have discounted the possibility that the monarch could be an IM variation: “Complex lifestyles like the Monarch butterfly must be planned and designed. This cannot have come from a generic butterfly pattern. It is beyond the concept of an IM.”-Remember I'm still developing a coherent pattern of thought. In the Tony/ Spetner approach there are basic patterns produced initially. In the case of the monarch, one can suppose that basic pattern butterflies came first with migration as part of the pattern. Then the nuances of complicated migration added later by variation. That would fit the step-wise concept of evolution that Tony and Spetner endorse. And it is interesting that both come from very fundamentalist religious backgrounds. And they solve my issue of how complex the IM might be. Again it revolves around how much information is implanted in the beginning of life, and perhaps in early stages. And I think probably most of the information is implanted early, since latter developments (mutations) reduce information, while causing adaptation.-> dhw: I don't understand the relevance of “having life last for 3.8 billion years etc.” I'm sure this new theory must somehow make sense to you, so do forgive me if I am the one who is being obtuse, but perhaps you could formulate it a little more clearly?-I discussed it in my previous entry. Life requires balance to provide the energy for everyone and everything. Note the production of CO2 by animals and the use of it by plants who produce O2 and food. Note the many species who fill different niches to contribute to the balance, and the wolf/deer balance I introduced from Spetner. Some type of balance is returned to or developed, each time it is disrupted, because it is very necessary. It all has to do with energy production and consumption which life requires.