DILEMMAS: my position clarified (Evolution)
I work under the assumption that evolution occurred. The science findings strongly suggest such a mechanism. Since I believe in God, I believe in a guided theistic evolution. Tony appears to believe that God created life in stages, not a free can independent process. I agree. He and I are not much apart. I can see that both animal and plant kingdoms are set up in basic patterns. Then there are variations on those patterns. Some of these are instinctual behavior such as ant learning to float in a flood by joining bodies as a raft. Some of these are environmental: the squirrels on the North Rim of the Grand Canyon are a slightly different species than those on the South Rim. Darwin's famous finches differ slight from island to island with varying vegetation. These simple modifications are the only inventions that living organisms can do, if there is an IM, as epigentic research is finding.-Complex lifestyles like the Monarch butterfly must be planned and designed. This cannot have come from a generic butterfly pattern. It is beyond the concept of an IM. -The entire bush of life provides a balance of nature. For example Monarchs feed only on Milkweed, and they help the pollination process by that. The entire complex system of life' organisms has all parts depending upon a relationship to other parts. Life must either gain energy by itself as photosynthesis takes energy from the sun to produce plants, or in the animal kingdom, greater animals prey on lesser animals. Therefore the natural mox of living things are generally all necessary to support the system. I know the bush looks weird with all its branches and sub-branches, but everytime the balance is upset, we find reasons for why the balance is designed the way it is. The Australian experience is the best example I know of as to what happens when bringing in entirely new species, and the balance is severely damaged. In Hawaii they have learned their lesson and are very strict. There is a reason for the bush.-Whenever we think we know better than what we find is the natural balance, we cause trouble.-In summary I strongly believe is God-guided evolution, and an IM is only for minor variation from the basic patterns. God provides the information to run the show. Information cannot arise by chance.
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2014-10-25, 18:32
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David Turell,
2014-10-26, 01:45
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dhw,
2014-10-26, 19:52
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David Turell,
2014-10-26, 21:45
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David Turell,
2014-10-26, 21:45
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dhw,
2014-10-26, 19:52
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GateKeeper,
2014-10-29, 11:34
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David Turell,
2014-10-29, 14:55
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GateKeeper,
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dhw,
2014-10-30, 15:13
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GateKeeper,
2014-10-30, 17:24
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dhw,
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dhw,
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2014-11-02, 21:02
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David Turell,
2014-11-02, 21:37
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
2014-11-07, 13:04
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David Turell,
2014-11-07, 16:32
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dhw,
2014-11-08, 13:00
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David Turell,
2014-11-08, 17:48
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dhw,
2014-11-09, 15:21
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-11-10, 04:14
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David Turell,
2014-11-10, 05:47
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dhw,
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2014-11-10, 20:16
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dhw,
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dhw,
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2014-11-14, 02:06
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dhw,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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2014-11-19, 01:29
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dhw,
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2014-11-19, 22:14
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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David Turell,
2014-11-22, 01:16
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
2014-11-27, 12:32
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David Turell,
2014-11-28, 00:07
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
2014-11-24, 23:57
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
2014-11-20, 20:35
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2014-11-19, 22:14
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dhw,
2014-11-19, 17:55
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David Turell,
2014-11-19, 01:29
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dhw,
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David Turell,
2014-11-17, 21:30
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dhw,
2014-11-17, 20:27
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David Turell,
2014-11-16, 21:38
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dhw,
2014-11-16, 15:02
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David Turell,
2014-11-15, 14:46
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dhw,
2014-11-15, 12:08
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David Turell,
2014-11-14, 17:57
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dhw,
2014-11-14, 12:51
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David Turell,
2014-11-14, 02:06
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dhw,
2014-11-12, 17:25
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David Turell,
2014-11-11, 14:17
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-11-10, 20:16
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David Turell,
2014-11-10, 15:24
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dhw,
2014-11-10, 13:50
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dhw,
2014-11-10, 13:42
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-11-10, 20:34
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dhw,
2014-11-11, 13:15
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-11-11, 20:54
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dhw,
2014-11-12, 17:11
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David Turell,
2014-11-14, 01:47
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dhw,
2014-11-14, 12:55
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David Turell,
2014-11-14, 18:08
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dhw,
2014-11-15, 12:21
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David Turell,
2014-11-15, 15:13
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dhw,
2014-11-16, 15:07
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David Turell,
2014-11-16, 22:11
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dhw,
2014-11-17, 20:34
- DILEMMAS: A Response to DHW - David Turell, 2014-11-17, 21:54
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dhw,
2014-11-17, 20:34
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David Turell,
2014-11-16, 22:11
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dhw,
2014-11-16, 15:07
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David Turell,
2014-11-15, 15:13
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dhw,
2014-11-15, 12:21
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David Turell,
2014-11-14, 18:08
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dhw,
2014-11-14, 12:55
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David Turell,
2014-11-14, 01:47
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dhw,
2014-11-12, 17:11
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-11-11, 20:54
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dhw,
2014-11-11, 13:15
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-11-10, 20:34
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David Turell,
2014-11-10, 05:47
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-11-10, 04:14
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dhw,
2014-11-09, 15:21
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David Turell,
2014-11-08, 17:48
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dhw,
2014-11-08, 13:00
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David Turell,
2014-11-07, 16:32
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dhw,
2014-11-07, 13:04
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David Turell,
2014-11-05, 16:05
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dhw,
2014-11-04, 16:00
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David Turell,
2014-11-02, 21:37
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David Turell,
2014-11-02, 21:02
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GateKeeper,
2014-11-02, 16:25
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dhw,
2014-11-02, 15:02
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GateKeeper,
2014-10-30, 17:24
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GateKeeper,
2014-10-29, 19:29
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David Turell,
2014-10-29, 14:55
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David Turell,
2014-10-26, 01:45