God & Particles (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by dhw, Monday, June 09, 2014, 17:01 (3818 days ago) @ BBella

bbella: David, by the above...one would conclude that you ARE saying God, thru QM, IS present in all that IS, living and inorganic - tho hidden at the Q level of reality. If so, wouldn't it then be easier or more realistic to simplify the word God to "the creator"? I personally have a problem within my own mind (not with anyone else's use) with the word God instead of Creator. The word God just seems to come with so much baggage that it's sometimes difficult to separate the baggage from the name. It is therefore more realistic for me to think and say: The creator of creation resides within the Q level of creation - since that just sounds so simple (to me) without any baggage. 
Which reminds me of my favorite sufi sayings: The Creator sleeps in the rock, dreams in the plant, stirs in the animal and awakens in man. Possibly all at the Q level, yet there are no walls between the Q level and ALL of CREATION.-Thank you, BBella, for sticking to the point and for trying to resolve what obviously both of us see as the inconsistencies in David's theory. However, I don't think "The Creator" solves the problem. It has the same baggage as "God", in that it evokes a single figure with a single mind. The sufi saying is great, but sleep, dream, stir and awaken all smack of an anthropomorphized God. David's first cause is emphatically not an anthropomorphic figure, but is energy. And this energy is composed of particles that act intelligently. In my response to him I've pointed out that he seems to be separating the quantum particles from the intelligence of his God, and the same problem would arise with "The Creator". And so I would propose that we dispense with any name, and confine ourselves to the description (energy particles etc.).


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