God & Particles (The nature of a \'Creator\')
I am not sure who this is aimed at? > > yes, sorry about that. I was confused. Your take is fine. > > > > I disagree with the papers "pure light". That is not exactly true. Or at least accepted by most. I would be shocked if tyson said "pure light". > > I did not use the phrase pure light, not sure what an impure light would be. > > My slant is a little different than yours. I use don't use the word "pure energy" as you are here. but if it is good enough for you guys, then so be it. > What is impure energy? > > I also don't use radioactivity in the manor you do. Stored "big bang" stuff is cool. that is as far as I will go. It does not show the universe was "created". > This must be aimed at David? > > You have to show me exactly what was working in an coherent manor "outside" of this universe to create us. The QM take, or this thing working in a QM environment would also have to be explained in a "something we know based" model. That being exactly what is working in QM model. > Outside of the universe .... ????? > > > > The qm model is based on probability and waving. So how is this creator working in that environment? > > > > I use the word god because of the baggage. If we reject a stance because we don't like a word. We may just have to step back and think about what we are rejecting. Thae data? or the "something else". Like I have to do with the word "science".-dern it ...sorry did I forgot to quote it again. Dont the reposes go right under the post?-The link used the words "light". I don't tyson would have used those words either.-Define "pure energy" first. please. I didn't say "impure". "energy" is not defined as they are using the word. Energy is the ability to do work. It is not a tangle "thing". They are using "pure energy" more loosely.-yes, I agree. I am having trouble understanding "outside". Or how the forces began to interact from 10^-43 to the point gravity and the weak separated. so that "it created" matter. matter is not even a thing. so I am way confused really.
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