God and Energy (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by GateKeeper , Sunday, June 08, 2014, 15:33 (3820 days ago) @ dhw

GATEKEEPER: Yes, my stance is confusing. Like a child going through his/her room looking for a particular set of socks. I use "child" because that is how I see humans when we try and describe "god". I have a 7yr old. Ask her to describe me. Then ask my brother. They both are right.
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> Not sure about the sock image, since there's something solid at the end of the quest (ugh maybe scented too). Not sure about the description of you either, since both your daughter and your brother have direct experience of you. But I do like the "child" image. We're all trying to understand something that we simply do not have the ability, the tools, or the range of perception and experience to understand. It's clear from the six and a half years in which we've been discussing these issues that ALL stances are confusing (which is why I remain agnostic). But we don't stop, and we learn a great deal on the way. And we sometimes have fun too.->>-agreed, over all that is.-I would, as David is, argue we do have tangle evidence. But many chose not "look". I feel many times it is the presenter's slant that obscures the view. And it is the "listener's" pre conceptions too. For me, I don't really care if yes, or no, only that the conclusion is reasonable or not. -as the fundie claims "no-nothing" does not fit any observation. I do not engage in David's style of presenting, but even it makes that claim less probable than the "there is something" claim to me. That's convergent.-Where I disagree with you is that I state ... the "daddy" and the "brother" do not exist. This statement can be taken to any level of philosophy. These levels are convergent, thus "more reasonable" to me. -If my brother tries to show you "me", do you see his "me"? Can he describe me before you meet me? Does that description help (or hurt) your final view of me? Is that "view" the real me?-For you. where do "I" exist? Where does your friend "exist"? Thats the starting point. It is not, as some would claim, the "end". only the begining of the end. lol ... my pop was with 82nd on 6/6/1944.