God and Energy (The nature of a \'Creator\')
GATEKEEPER: I will ask you this DHW. Did your parents create you? could they have done so "unknowingly"? After the deed, did your mom make you? how much control did she have? total? did you create your "hair" Your brain always thinks. When did that start? Does the brain ever stop thinking? I ask you this because the pure energy stuff is meaningless until you have a base set of axioms. Also, to claim any "facts" other than "it looks like" is meaningless too.-I assume you're referring to my three questions about David's theories concerning "pure energy" and God, but it would be helpful if you would reproduce the reference yourself. Please note that I'm the one who has queried the term "pure energy". Your questions are fun, so I'll answer them in the same spirit, though I'm not sure of their relevance,-My parents created me. They could have done so unknowingly if they didn't know the facts of life, but I'm pretty sure they did, and I'm pretty sure they wanted children as well as sex with each other. After the deed my mom would have been aware she was pregnant but would have had only partial control of her pregnancy (e.g. diet, seeking medical advice when necessary, not doing anything to endanger the safe arrival of dear little me). Nature did the rest. I did not create my hair. Nature created it, but I confess to the fact that I lost it. I assume that my brain started working while I was in the womb, but I can't remember when, and I don't know where you draw the line between the brain working and my thinking consciously. -All of these answers are qualified by ifs and buts, so you might say your questions are meaningless without more precise definition of your terms. Just to clarify, then, may I take it that you need David's definition of "pure energy" and his "base set of axioms" before you accept his claim that electrons, photons and quark-gluon plasma are pure energy that can create matter? -"To claim any "facts" other than "it looks like" is meaningless too." Agreed. When it comes to the origin of the universe, life and consciousness, we only have theories: e.g. a superintelligence some people call God, or a few billion strokes of luck. David has a theory about God being first cause, "pure", intelligent energy, and he has drawn my attention to the latest theories about the universe being the product of "pure energy". At the moment I'm trying to explore the implications of the two theories when combined. We still shan't get to any "facts", but if we all agreed on "it looks like", we would have made amazing progress!
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dhw,
2014-06-04, 12:05
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David Turell,
2014-06-04, 16:17
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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