God and Energy (The nature of a \'Creator\')
> dhw: In order to make headway in this discussion, I began by accepting your basic premise: an always existing and intelligent energy as first cause....I'm merely pointing out that if God is pure energy, and he used pure energy to make matter, then the particles of energy he used must have been himself, and all the processes you have been referring to as the current theories (such as virtual particles being transformed into a vacuum bubble) must have been the way your God used himself to create the matter we know. What else could he have used, since according to your scenario nothing else existed? -Your proposal is fine with me as long as the description remains as superficial as you have outlined. What I found troubling is your inferential asking for a more precise mechanism for God and how He might be organized. I would go so far as to say: quantum energy particles acting as a consciousness is God. Since we do not understand, and may never understand the quantum level of reality that works just fine.
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