How God works (Introduction)

by dhw, Wednesday, January 16, 2013, 17:09 (4330 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: I'm not with Tony at his level of using the Bible. I don't accept his version of prophesies. Even Nostradamus can be contorted to mean anything. This is not a disrespect of Tony. He has his views and faith and I have mine. To me the Bible is history in the early portions of the OT, and after that it contains whatever the early committees needed it to contain to convince folks of that time that this religion was better than that religion.-It's nice that we agree on some things! The first fallible fellow who came up with the expression "The Word of God" has a lot to answer for! -dhw: I am delighted to be alive, I accept the conditions under which I am alive, I accept that evolution happened, and I cannot imagine another arrangement for an evolutionary process. I am sceptical, however, of Tony's image of God. -DAVID: And of mine, because you are completely skeptical of the God issue. But I know you realize something/someone did all this. I think you are really not an agnostic. You just cannot accept recognition of the First Cause. You've admitted it is not a chance process. It is either chance or directed, nothing inbetween. Cook up your own version of the director. He won't mind.-Mr W: I'm not on the right
Mr T: Ah, so you're on the left.
Mr W: I'm not on the left.
Mr.T: Ah so you're on the right.
Mr. W: I'm in the middle.
 
I do recognize a first cause, and if I were an atheist it would be some kind of impersonal, unconscious energy. If I were a theist, it would be personal and conscious. I am neither, and opt for neither. But I'm enjoying discussing the idea of something in between, along panpsychic lines, though of course I remain uncommitted!
 
DAVID: And I'm delighted you're alive also. At least there are two of us, but I know there are many others thankful for you.-The feeling is reciprocated many times over, David, as I think/hope it is with my immediate family and friends. I have, however, alienated some people through this website, and I'm sorry about that.


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